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Minize to Tray

Some do it on _, some do it on x. PLEASE can we come up with a standard behavior for this? Heck, I wouldn't mind if every window could minimize to the tray on the correct button click. (Thank you Power Menu.)
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September 3rd, 2006 3:12pm
_ minimizes the window, X closes the window. X minimizing to tray should be a checkbox setting. _ minimizing to tray is counterintuitive, you'd want to look for the minimized window on the taskbar. (The assumption is naturally that you'll be wanting that window again in just a bit.)
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September 3rd, 2006 3:50pm
The programs that do minimize to the tray should standardize.

I agree "minimize to the tray" should be somewhere in Preferences, but some programs X to the tray.

These are things like antivirus, firewall, proxy, etc. Programs you want running all the time.
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September 3rd, 2006 4:15pm
[X], isn't "minimize to the tray" just a stupid idiom????

Anything in the tray is a TSR, right. The terminology should be Open/Close interface. IF the interface is open it should appear on the tasbar and clicking _ should minimize it to the task bar, clicking x should close the interface.

You /are/ talking about windows ... aren't you ??  ;-)
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September 3rd, 2006 6:01pm
No, not everything in the systray is a TSR. IM, for example, stays on the desktop but never appears on the taskbar, though your individual IM windows might.
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September 3rd, 2006 6:27pm
There needs to be an additional button to minimise to tray for those long running but infrequently used apps.

I use 4t Tray Minimiser for that: http://www.lifehacker.com/software/windows/download-of-the-day--4t-tray-minimizer-190661.php

As to correct behaviour, X should always be exit. _ can go to taskbar or sytem tray (real name - notification area), based on an option, with taskbar being the default.
Permalink Dash Riprock 
September 3rd, 2006 6:40pm
Dash,

"long running but infrequently used apps" isn't that a TSR, with a much longer name?  ;-)

"real name - notification area" ... right, it was system tray pre-XP wasn't it?
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September 3rd, 2006 6:53pm
[x],  Tummy needs a terminology update although it is targeted at NT & W2K as well where the term is still used ... whatever, eh?

They're still TSRs ... by whatever name ;-)
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September 3rd, 2006 6:58pm
Who cares, the app rocks.
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September 3rd, 2006 7:27pm
It was never called the system tray. If it is in any MSDN documentation, then it's a bug.

Raymond Chen would know... http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2003/09/10/54831.aspx
Permalink Dash Riprock 
September 3rd, 2006 7:38pm
TSR's are more like windows services (but T = terminiate.. so...hmm).

I'm talking about more task context stuff - I like to keep MSProject open all day but only need to look at it several times so I keep that in the notification area.
Permalink Dash Riprock 
September 3rd, 2006 7:43pm
Cool

... to both.
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September 3rd, 2006 7:50pm
Yea, TSR isn't quite right.

It does look like a cool app.
Permalink Send private email PNII 
September 3rd, 2006 7:53pm
"It was never called the system tray."

Yes it was. Several times in this thread, in fact.
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September 3rd, 2006 8:27pm
> Several times in this thread, in fact.

Hehe. Way, way more than that according to the link. You could almost say that the term /is/ tray just through common usage.

In the link Dash posted the second comment talked about docking the taskbar at the top of the screen ... I've been trying it out ... I thinks I like it there. Ever tried it yourself?
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September 3rd, 2006 10:00pm
Briefly, yeah. I still prefer bottom.

Side just doesn't make sense, unless we were in Japan or somewhere where text is read up/down.
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September 3rd, 2006 10:05pm
[x] ... get out of the box. ;-)
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September 3rd, 2006 10:24pm
[x] closes the thread.
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September 3rd, 2006 10:49pm
Oh shit, I forgot all about being "outside the box." Thanks.
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September 3rd, 2006 11:17pm

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