Sanding our assholes with 150 grit.

www.joelonsoftware.com is fucked up!

I am trying to access daddy's home and all I get is " Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)".

Do you know what's going on?
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 6:11pm
It is working again. Daddy may have messed with his IIS settings.
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 6:13pm
The first day of adulthood is when a person learns that his daddy can get a "Bad Request" error.
Permalink victim of my own devices 
September 5th, 2006 6:15pm
OMFGWTFBBQLSD! A site I never visit is momentarily down. What are we to do?
Permalink wheeeee ~~~~x 
September 5th, 2006 6:16pm
His newly announced jobs.joelonsoftware.com is not working fine: it is very slow and randomly reports internal errors (Error 500).

Too bad for the launch day. :-(
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 6:16pm
[x],

I went there to see what his jobs site looks like. Apparently it is not yet ready for prime time.

I don't care, you don't care, and no one really cares (except daddy's fanatics). It's just curiosity from a former JoS lurker.
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 6:20pm
Meh, it's more interesting than anything I had to post, and I had no idea there was a jobs.jos.com.
Permalink wheeeee ~~~~x 
September 5th, 2006 6:21pm
Wow $350 a pop.

I extrapolated the number of jobs on there * cost.

$2 million a year.

Nice.
Permalink Jar Jar 
September 5th, 2006 6:32pm
How do you get 2MM?
Permalink  
September 5th, 2006 6:43pm
Programmer / Developer (31 Jobs)
+ Test / QA (3 Jobs)
+ Management (9 Jobs)
+ System / Network Administration (4 Jobs)
+ UI / Web Design (3 Jobs)
+ Summer Internships / Coops (1 Job)
+ Miscellaneous (2 Jobs)
= 53 jobs in the last 7 days

53 jobs a week
* 52 weeks
* Posting an ad costs $350
= 964,600 per year.
Permalink wheeeee ~~~~x 
September 5th, 2006 6:49pm
Right. Thus, how did you get 2MM.  Not that $964,600 is bad....
Permalink  
September 5th, 2006 6:58pm
They refund if you can't hire anyone.
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:02pm
Creative accounting.

Jeez. They don't teach nothing in school anymore.
Permalink victim of my own devices 
September 5th, 2006 7:02pm
Oh, that makes the 2nd million.
Permalink  
September 5th, 2006 7:03pm
Don't forget that a job listing can remain there for 3 weeks.

So your sum should be reduced to the half if we assume that not all positions will be filled quicly (in less than a week).

Anyway, $0.5 M is still a good income for such a simple site (less than 1 day of work for implementing it).

Daddy, today I do really envy you!
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 7:04pm
You know what they say, the second million is much easier than the first.
Permalink victim of my own devices 
September 5th, 2006 7:05pm
"Daddy, today I do really envy you!"

Well, you don't know much he made in the last few years since he first started JoS.
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:12pm
I envy him today because launching this job site did not require any investment (only a few hours of coding) but will be a cash cow for him for the coming years.

It's very different from selling FogBugz or CityDesk which needed tens of thousands of hours of development and testing.
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 7:18pm
But you didn't count all the hours he spent on all his articles.

Those are his real investments, personally.
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:19pm
I mean, without those articles there wouldn't be so many people in the forums to read the job postings!

And the hosting cost for joelonsoware... maybe not, I think he gets free hosting!

More for you to envy :)
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:20pm
Granted that he worked hard, but writing an article is still not a 1000-hour task.

Joel's bright idea was to create the discussion forums and to let people make his place a meeting place for the software industry people. The years did the rest.

This jobs site is probably the project which has the best return on investment since he left MS.
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 7:26pm
I read what I wrote and it's a pity. Too many "People" and "Place" occurrences in the same sentence!

I'll have to STFU and go have some rest.
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 7:30pm
Do you really believe 'years' did the rest?

I don't think so. That's why I don't envy him a bit. I prefer staying in my tiny cubicle...
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:31pm
Yup, rest and you won't envy him anymore since he probably couldn't...
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:31pm
cash cow + years = bullshit
Permalink Send private email just me 
September 5th, 2006 7:36pm
"(less than 1 day of work for implementing it). "

Noah and I designed and coded the whole site over the course of three weeks, which included two weeks of vacation--each.
Permalink  
September 5th, 2006 7:53pm
But coming up with the idea and writing the business plan probably take more time?
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 7:56pm
"Noah and I"

Who are you? Who is Noah?

Are we supposed to know you?
Permalink Methuselah 
September 5th, 2006 7:59pm
No.
Permalink Noah one should say that! 
September 5th, 2006 8:01pm
"...yes, there's customer service, with a toll-free phone number..."

That's going to cost $$$ :)
Permalink Rick Tsang 
September 5th, 2006 8:07pm
Methul....it's a quote from the jos home page.
Permalink  
September 5th, 2006 8:17pm
"I don't think so. That's why I don't envy him a bit. I prefer staying in my tiny cubicle..."
Permalink LOL 
September 5th, 2006 8:18pm

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