Sanding our assholes with 150 grit. Slowly. Lovingly.

OU (for sharky)

I did this in my final year:

http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?C01M301

and the first year was an intro to OO which was based on Smalltalk but which seems to have gone. It got me an undergrad diploma (nope, still don't have no degree ...)

the cost was around 300, 400 /year but is close to double outside the UK, and has gone up anyhow as you see on the page.

one course a year is enough if you are working full time, believe me.
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September 12th, 2006 8:45am
Oh, the Brits.  What is the difference between an undergrad diploma and a degree?
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September 12th, 2006 10:26am
The same difference as there is in the US, presumably?  (ASc vs BSc, etc.)
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September 12th, 2006 10:27am
thanks mat. Sounds reasonable.

That course looks great.  Too bad USians don't get to take such until grad school.
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September 12th, 2006 10:31am
that course was great. They really covered a lot of ground - UML, java, concurrency, methodologies, some other stuff I forgot about. It was quite tough too. The one that prepared for it was pretty OK too. I had struggled with OO for a while until that, that made it really clear. I was really into smalltalk for a while.
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September 12th, 2006 10:42am
I would love that.  The American courses I have seen aren't really all that rigorous. 

And if they are (Harvard Extension has a great IT program) they cost a LOT of money.
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September 12th, 2006 10:58am
yeah. those OU courses are around 500 pounds which is pretty good value - say 1000 outside, which is what, $1500? add visits to the UK, that's probably $2500/year average.

so if you do one a year for 5 years, you should get your degree for about 14, 15k, spread over that time.

If I had independent income I'd maybe go back to that and do some humanities courses or something.
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September 12th, 2006 11:03am
awhile ago I heard that you can go to Germany and study in a university there for free. I kind of doubt it's that simple, but I never checked out what fire caused that smoke ring.
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September 12th, 2006 11:04am
You might be interested in some of the courses which can be studied from the US. As you can see as an overseas student they are a bit dearer:

http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/countries/USA.shtm
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September 12th, 2006 11:12am
"awhile ago I heard that you can go to Germany and study in a university there for free. I kind of doubt it's that simple, but I never checked out what fire caused that smoke ring."

You can, but you have to pass a German proficiency exam. If you don't know any German it will take you a year of serious study to get to that point. Fortunately, there are a number of German training courses (in Germany) which are tailored to help you pass the exam. However, these training courses are relatively expensive. Also, I don't know what the details are of getting a study visa for taking the german courses.

Also it is not completely free, but ridiculously low fees, like $800 per year or something.
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September 12th, 2006 6:47pm

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