Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

Eclipse does not suck

People use Eclipse (or WSAD) everyday, all day.  It does not suck.  It is not notepad, you can't figure it out in 30 seconds.

But, if you really want to know the simplest way to get around.  At first, you probably won't need more than the 'Java' perspective or the 'Java' view.

- Create a project
- Add your java code to the source directory.

Review the 'views' you don't need.  Review the 'Outline' and 'Hierarchy' views.

People who don't understand Eclipse, good for you; go use Visual Studio.  Ask any java developer what they use.  It is either Eclipse:99% of the time, Netbeans 0.00001%, IntelliJ 0.00002%, and Other (VI/Emacs/Etc).
Permalink Send private email Bot Berlin 
September 13th, 2006 3:13pm
I am debugging this application, right now in it.

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Permalink Send private email Bot 
September 13th, 2006 3:17pm
>> IntelliJ <<


I used that POS.  Briefly.
It was all the CTO's idea.
Permalink xampl 
September 13th, 2006 3:50pm
I'm with xampl on IntelliJ.  Just don't like it.
Permalink Send private email Jöhn Härën 
September 13th, 2006 4:05pm
Damn. I think we offended Bot by dissing his IDE.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
September 13th, 2006 5:21pm
its a bloody nightmare.  unfortunately I cant stick to the java perspective, its an opensource framework Im hacking so I need to use the synchronize perspective, the debug perspect, its got multiple libraries so I need to get the paths setup correctly, I need to...well, lets just say that the entire fucking interface of the thing is a hideous mess of confusing dialogs and stupid messages.

oh, and its slow.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 13th, 2006 8:04pm
"oh, and its slow."  It will eventually crash.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
September 13th, 2006 8:57pm
The slowness/crashiness wasn't as big an issue for me because I work on a pretty beefy system - P4 dual core w/4 GB RAM - but ...

The prefs system in Eclipse is depressingly bad/hard to use.

It was entirely too much hassle to change the colors/fonts.

My realization that there was no intelligent soft-wrapping of lines (i.e. wrapping long lines at the edge of the screen while preserving indentation) was the final straw for me.

Yeah, some dude started working on it as a Google Summer of Code project, iirc, but his plugin is still highly experimental.
Permalink possibly maybe 
September 14th, 2006 12:17am
"so I need to use the synchronize perspective..."
I rarely use the synch perspective.  Nine times outta ten you can just use the Team... blah blah functions from the right-click context menu.
Basically, if you think that it's a cumbersome and stupid chore in order to get something done, you're probably doing it in... shall we say, a sub-optimal fashion.
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September 14th, 2006 11:10am

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