Sanding our assholes with 150 grit. Slowly. Lovingly.

The trouble with the 'continue showing the deleted posts to...

...the original poster' theory is that it actually defeats the broken windows theory.

The idea with graffiti is apparently to clean it off immediately, thereby eliminating the effect the tagger has had on his environment and removing his motivation.

with the 'continue showing the deleted posts' theory, the poor bugger actually thinks he is achieving something, assuming he doesn't know about it, and therefore has no reason to stop.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 14th, 2006 12:18am
What is he achieving if nobody responds?
Permalink wheeeeeeeee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~x 
September 14th, 2006 12:19am
he is altering his environment.  thats what its all about, this kind of thing is caused by a feeling of helplessness/uselessness and a desire to have an impact on the environment.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 14th, 2006 12:20am
It's an interesting point.  Certainly that's an easy fix in the code.
Permalink Send private email Wayne (AHA) 
September 14th, 2006 12:21am
"thats what its all about, this kind of thing is caused by a feeling of helplessness/uselessness and a desire to have an impact on the environment."

Hmm, that is the one thing we all have in common...
Permalink wheeeeeeeee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~x 
September 14th, 2006 12:26am
trouble is I dont have access to a subversion client here at work, and dont have the inclination to work on the code at home.

if we could berak that deadlock I would be interested in tweaking that and also adding some rough form of registration.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 14th, 2006 12:26am
it is kinda neat the way you're the only one who can see your post [if it's been deleted] on the [death knell of argument] JOS groups. After a thousand or two that get sfa in response has to be somewhat demeaning and you'd think the poster would give up.
Permalink Send private email PNII 
September 14th, 2006 12:26am
"you'd think the poster would give up."

this particular poster has shown no inclination to give up for months. I must admit I am genuinely at a loss to understand why.

dedicating your life to ruining a forum is just odd.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 14th, 2006 12:29am
Ok, I've modified the code so that deleted posts are gone.  I hope it hasn't caused any other problems.
Permalink Send private email Wayne (AHA) 
September 14th, 2006 12:31am
cool, fast work :)


now if you can just tweak it so whenever a post is deleted their computer gives the poster an electrical shock, we will be nearly there..
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 14th, 2006 12:43am
The reason for the "deleted posts remain visible to the poster" was for Joel on JoS to feed spammers. If their posts vanish, they keep posting to try and work around whatever algorithm is nailing their posts.

If they post and see their post show up, they're happy and move on, never aware that nobody else can see it.
Permalink Send private email Steel McLargeEsquimaux 
September 14th, 2006 7:09am
There wasn't any board spam at the time the system was set up. The reason was simply Joel didn't want to waste time arguing his moderating decisions.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
September 14th, 2006 7:49am
"they're happy and move on"

Unfortunately our particular moron seems to have missed that part of the theory...
Permalink Send private email Mat Hall 
September 14th, 2006 10:16am

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