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Iranian leader is deeply interesting

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?ex=1316491200&en=dbec4f7c2ac5fa82&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

that guy fascinates me.  I wonder what he wants.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 22nd, 2006 2:52am
He wants to eliminate the state of israel.
Permalink Commandante Marcos 
September 22nd, 2006 3:08am
He's clearly an educated and intelligent man who is a strong personality in his own right. A characteristic he shares with most uber-bad guys in history.

But I welcome these independent voices like his and Chavez's as opposed to the monkey's with strings attached that currently represent the so called 'free world'
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
September 22nd, 2006 3:12am
"He wants to eliminate the state of israel."

does he?  I wonder.  he finds claiming to be against it very useful in his local politics, thats for sure.


"He's clearly an educated and intelligent man who is a strong personality in his own right. A characteristic he shares with most uber-bad guys in history. "

right.  its a shame he doesn't share it with my president, who takes such deep pride in being an uneducated idiot.


"But I welcome these independent voices like his and Chavez's as opposed to the monkey's with strings attached that currently represent the so called 'free world'"

thats actually how I feel as well.  chavez more I guess, but both of them represent an interesting alternative to the pressure from the west to follow a particular economic path.

I believe in diversity far more than I believe in capitalism I guess...and the american government at the moment seems hellbent on removing choice and diversity from the international stage.

I agree with him about his right to pursue nuclear power under the treaty, thats for sure. 

I also find the interesting tone of that article to be somewhat dishonest in itself.

ah well.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 22nd, 2006 3:27am
I'm not quite sure about my position towards Iran.
I detest the islamic rule and Sharia law.
I think the preaching of hate against the west and the USA and Israel in particular, is irresponsible and dangerous.

But I see an Iranian president debating arguments and issues. He's challenging the world in the open. There are also changes going on in Iran. There are voices of opposition there. By threatning Iran we force them to pull together and unite against us. Instead we should not be their enemy and give Iran the opportunity to grow and evolve on its own.

I also don't see why Iran shouldn't have the right to pursue nuclear weapons. It worries and scares me but if we claim to be free and democratic than we should not reserve that freedom for ourselves and not be denying it to others just because we disagree with them. There just is no treaty, deal or contract with Iran that disallows them to develop nukes. They are a souvereign nation. Tough luck.
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
September 22nd, 2006 4:04am
Our fearless leader requires some enemy to focus his sheeples' two-minute-hates. In the past, that enemy was Iraq + democrats. Today, that enemy is Iran + democrats.

The story with Iran is far more complicated than fearless leader is willing to allow to be spoken in the US.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
Permalink Peter 
September 22nd, 2006 9:07am
> He wants to eliminate the state of israel.

I thought israel was a country?
Permalink son of parnas 
September 22nd, 2006 10:27am
>> Our fearless leader requires some enemy to focus his sheeples' two-minute-hates.

I thought OBL was the USA's Emmanuel Goldstein?
Permalink NotPortly 
September 22nd, 2006 10:32am
Ha ha. This reminds me of many discussions made by american socialists in the 1930s about how wonderful Hitler was and if only America could be led by such a charismatic and effective leader.

Things just don't change, do they?
Permalink Commandante Marcos 
September 22nd, 2006 10:45am
in every part of the world except the US, "state" means "sovereign political entity".
Permalink the great purple 
September 22nd, 2006 10:46am
One great thing about Iran is they don't fuck around with crime. If you commit adultery, no excuses, you get stoned to death and promptly. This really keeps society in order.
Permalink Commandante Marcos 
September 22nd, 2006 10:47am
purple, it used to mean that in the US as well, until the american civil war changed things.
Permalink Commandante Marcos 
September 22nd, 2006 10:47am
>>This really keeps society in order.

Until one day you or your fiends get stoned because some one powerful does not like you.
Permalink burner 
September 22nd, 2006 2:13pm
"if only America could be led by such a charismatic and effective leader. "

no one is wanting the leader of Iran as president, the man is nearly as insane as bush.  what I _would_ like is a president as intelligent as the leader of iran, but with maybe a few more of the western virtues...you know, doesn't like to imprison citizens without trial, is dead set against torture, doesn't believe in war except where its actually necessary, prefers not to lie to the citizenry, beleives in smaller government and balancing books....basically I want a president who is nothing like bush.  the complete opposite really.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 22nd, 2006 6:10pm
Like you, perhaps!

Christ on a crutch, Bush is so bad that even you would be better.

Isn't he going near a book depository soon?
Permalink Send private email Ward 
September 22nd, 2006 6:36pm
"Like you, perhaps!"

honestly, I see myself more as dictator material.  I wouldn't function well in a democracy, but put me somewhere I can have stupid people tortured and imprisoned and Ill be like a pig in a mud bath.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
September 22nd, 2006 7:43pm
>no one is wanting the leader of Iran as president, the
>man is nearly as insane as bush.

He's clearly not insane, that's just how Bush & co like to paint him.

Plenty of leaders spin a line of militaristic, populist, nationalistic gung-ho bullshit in public and then discuss trade agreements behind closed doors. They're not the ones to worry about.
Permalink Colm 
September 23rd, 2006 3:49pm

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