How stupid.

??

We have other religions here.  It seems utterly redneck.

LOL

I think sharkfish just volunteered to create and collect images to represent all the holidays/celebrations of all other cultural groups in the world.

either that or she is just being insanely, pointlessly grumpy...who wants to guess which one it is?

Not really in keeping with the high level of discourse that CoT is know for, you say?

precisely.  if we're not careful our standards will slip and we'll be no better than JoS and like forums....focused more on the debate than the topic.


I expected better from you sharky.

> I expected better from you sharky.

We can all guess how meaningful that it is.

Christmas is "utterly redneck"...  Is it only celebrated in trailer parks or in the back of pickup trucks?

I'm just saying why have a tree, why poke at the sore?  It's just stupid and it isn't humorous.

Keep your stupid tree. Fucking rednecks.

"why poke at the sore?"

Poke at what sore?!?  Isn't this just taking Political Correctness just a bit too far.  "Oh my God, don't put up a Christmas tree because you *offend* someone".  That's bullshit.

I like xmas trees. They smell good. They are pretty all sparkly at night. And they set off the presents nicely.

"Isn't this just taking Political Correctness just a bit too far.  "Oh my God, don't put up a Christmas tree because you *offend* someone".  That's bullshit."

The uber-cool backlash against Political Correctness is lemming-like.

son.. think of the pain and injustice associated with christmas trees and, more generally, the color green before you make an ignorant and hurtful comment like that. please.

Trivializing my point of view is fun!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/5372458.stm

There is no God, dumbasses.  So the tree is just anti-intellectual and stupid.

we're not trivializing it.  we're ridiculing it.  totally different.

seriously, there is _nothing_ offensive about a christmas tree. there is no cultural group that I am aware who find christmas trees offensive.

That was very sweet of you, sharkfish, to think of the others over here. Thanks.

Christians are a minority here in India so we see X-mas here as holidays than something religious. It's nice that it's on a Monday so it's a long weekend this time.

??? a christmas tree has _nothing_ to do with god.  neither does christmas for that matter, but who cares.

Im a declared atheist and I happily enjoy the good food and presents of christmas time, and I love christmas trees.

just because a bunch of christians want to pretend that they invented the idea of a celebration at the midyear solstice doesn't mean that I have to believe them.

pah.  they'll be claiming father christmas next.

> There is no God, dumbasses.

Xmas was celebrated long before there was a christian god. The original motivations are still deep and valid. You can ignore the rest of the crap.

> So the tree is just anti-intellectual and stupid.

See, there is an upside.

lol @ the Festivus pole ...

It's "A Festivus for the rest of us", though.

"The uber-cool backlash against Political Correctness is lemming-like."

Right...  and it's really cool to bitch about someone putting up a damn Christmas tree because...  well because what exactly?  We aren't acknowledging the other hundred or so religions?!?  What would satisfy you?

"So the tree is just anti-intellectual and stupid."

Yeah, what others have said..  the tree kind pre-dates Christmas and isn't really christian to being with.  So who's being anti-intellectual anyway?

Wayne: shhhhhh, don't get all factual, you're probably not living in the real world like she is or something.

The phrasing of the title, "Xmas tree is just ignorant", is not typical of an English speaker. How do we know it's really sharkfish posting here and not an impersonator?

It could be an ent posing as sharkfish.

I have to admit, it's a bit self-centered to be celebrating a Christian holiday three months away while there's a jewish holiday going on. Fixed. (in my own ignant gentile way) :)

You're all obviously tired (3am) and addled back east...

"Celebrating"?  Exactly how was anyone celebrating?

"and it's really cool to bitch about someone putting up a damn Christmas tree because...  well because what exactly?  We aren't acknowledging the other hundred or so religions?!?  What would satisfy you?"

Not putting up a Christmas tree *on* jewish new year?

The trees been there for a couple days in memory of the structure nazi thread.

Hands up all the Jewish people here who were offended by it?

Ward, I'm going to rename you David Brent.

ah. we *need* a David Brent.

Kwanzaa tree?

I'm thinking it's an impersonating troll.  Since sharky lives in a very Catholic city it's gonna be pointless to get bent about Christmas decorations.

Besides, Christmas trees are about as offensive as puppies: http://www.wildhauskennels.com/elitterpics/

You want to rag on the Xmas tree, when that chocolate bunny that lays colored Easter eggs is just BEGGING to be condemned?

Yeah, so any religion consists of Religious Teachings along with Customs.  And sometimes the Customs don't quite make a lot of sense with the Religious Teachings.  That's life.

Perhaps I shouldn't mention Kwanzaa?

No, you shouldn't.

It was me. The page took too long to load because of that one imgshack image so I ranted.

Sue me.

I see.

So rather than raising a real and universal issue (the page taking to long to load) you had a rant about religious discrimination in which you used a pejorative term for white working class people several times?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=counterproductive

That's our Sharky.  You go, girl.

You're all rednecks.  STFU

Hey now, what's the color of my neck got to do with decorated trees?

BTW, should I then consider the puppies offensive?

"You're all rednecks." 
Let's see if we can see any signs of that in my CV:

1991 South Ealing Trust - Computer training for black people under Section 35 Race Relations Act 1976
1992-1998 New Directions - Social Work Training for Black and disadvantaged people under sections 35 & 37 RRA 1976
1998-1999 European Childrens Trust - childcare charity working in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.
1999-date Specialist Foster Carer - working with children from a wide range of religious and ethnic backgrounds and personal histories (some which would scare the fucking shit out of you).

Physical characteristics: Hair down to my arse.

Oooo...looks like you've got me there Miss Perceptive.

Well I suppose I did refer you to the wrong definition.  I should have used this one:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudice

"STFU"
This time you condemed yourself out of your own mouth.  Just grow up, you sily and self indulgent little girl.

cynic, if you think i care, you have thought wrong.


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Nothing compares to what I've seen in the Chicago city projects.

Except maybe the aftermath of Chernobyl.

I don't think you care...I do think you ask the rest of us to...and until this thread I did.