Nobody likes to be called a dummy by a dummy.

Ive never tried LSD or mescaline

http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/THESLSD06.htm


always wanted to though.  these days I dont think I would if I got the chance, Ive got too much to lose.

::sigh::
Permalink Send private email worldsSmallestViolin 
January 23rd, 2007 11:39pm
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always wanted to though.  these days I dont think I would if I got the chance, Ive got too much to lose. "

Uhhh... What will you lose? It's a WONDERFUL drug and after I do LSD I have a much better mood for the next 6 months, it's fucking wonderful.
Permalink Me 
January 24th, 2007 12:03am
I dont know what I might lose.  which is rather the point.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
January 24th, 2007 12:31am
"I dont know what I might lose.  which is rather the point."

Make sure not to ever leave your room.
Permalink Me 
January 24th, 2007 1:08am
Wow that's a cool article.

"Best of all, the famous route along which he road his bicycle on the first ever acid trip in 1943 has been renamed in his honour."

Awesome.
Permalink Practical Economist 
January 24th, 2007 2:06am
How many here have read "Zodiac - the Eco-Thriller" by Neal Stephenson?  It's not sci-fi, but I would say it's his best book.  Anyway, LSD was the only exception to Sangamon's Principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangamon's_Principle

Please be aware that the table shown in the Wikipedia article is not taken from the book.  In the book he says that Oxygen is best, then Nitrous, then booze.  LSD is ok for occasions when you _really_ need something extreme.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
January 24th, 2007 3:14am
Don't do it.  My son's friend did mushrooms and completely lost it.  She was incoherent, banging her head on the concrete, biting people and objects, and had to be tied to a stretcher and taken to the hospital and sedated.  She remembers none of it.

Most people who take hallucinogenics just laugh a lot and see pretty things.  You don't want to find out you're in the minority that just can't handle it.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
January 24th, 2007 7:17am
Don't. A good friend of mine was in and out of hospitals for a long while after her LSD experiences. Even after she stopped taking it she would get "flashbacks" as she called them.
Permalink man on the stair 
January 24th, 2007 7:30am
What put me off was a conversation 20 odd years ago which went:

"Bill is that wall breathing?"
"What?!"
"The wall.  By the radiator. Is it breathing?"
<long pause>"er...no"
"Oh don't worry, I'm just having a flashback"
Permalink Send private email a cynic writes... 
January 24th, 2007 7:31am
"...a common core of effects which can be understood using a 5-dimensional model of altered states of consciousness."

Spooky.  Only 2 short...
Permalink Send private email Aaron F Stanton 
January 24th, 2007 7:56am
Not that spooky. He used to partake, if you remember...
Permalink Send private email a cynic writes... 
January 24th, 2007 9:12am
A young body on acid....

Yes you should, but i'd recommend mushrooms and go to nature dont do it with muppets in the city.
Permalink what are you reading for? 
January 24th, 2007 10:06am
Set and setting, people.
Psychotropics are not toys.  They can be dangerous.  In the main, though, the context in which you take them -- your state of mind, your physical environment, who you are with -- determines the quality of your experience.  I can't stress this enough.

Honestly, I think it's a shame that so many people go through life never experiencing the states of mind brought about by certain indoles.  It's like dying a virgin: sad.  "Just don't do it" is silly, as silly as "just go for it".
Permalink Send private email John Haren 
January 24th, 2007 10:46am
"Yes you should, but i'd recommend mushrooms and go to nature dont do it with muppets in the city."

Thats just because you'll get freaked out if you are with people who arn't shrooming, go ahead and do it in the city just make sure everyone you are hanging with is shrooming too.
Permalink Me 
January 24th, 2007 12:33pm
LSD -- cooler than an iPod and the bundled music is better.

Coming down can be a nuisance though. A friend of mine at Uni waited until he was sure it had worn off and then went down to the street. Going out of the main gate he saw six elephants walk past. He thought he had really lost it until he saw the last one had a sign saying "Billy Smart's Circus".
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
January 24th, 2007 6:09pm
because you could hallucinate six elephants, but not a sign?  I call BS on the story.

+1 to Haren.
Permalink psychotropic zed 
January 25th, 2007 5:26am
I've never had apparitic<word?> type hallucinations. Everything was generally real, but distorted. So a coat hook on a wall may be a writhing snake. I suppose elephants may be large trucks... but for me it was always slightly closer to reality.

Trees blowing in the wind appearing to be breathing, tracers from light sources, and audio/visual crossover (hearing sights, and seeing sounds). Think a reality based winamp visualization.

The primary thing though was the brevity of all things at had... the amplitude of consciousness.

Something I could well have done without, but when I have read about psychologists doing experiments with stuff like that as therapy it sure makes sense.

Even looking back you can't think man, it was all my head being messed with. It still seems like something more profound took place.
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January 25th, 2007 5:59pm
I'm repeating the story as the guy told me it (though I can't remember the number of elephants or the exact name of the circus).

There was a circus that set up the tent that day, and it was tradtion that when the circus arrived in town it did a procession to arouse interest, so I have no reason to disbelieve the story.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
January 25th, 2007 7:15pm
Mushrooms are great. all they do is take the image your looking at and distort it. i have never seen any pink elephants walk infornt of me like eveyones story. All bullshit. Best said by zed just try it with freinds and enjoy. don't die a virgin.
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January 27th, 2007 7:39pm

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