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Victim of discrimination/racism

So, I went to an Indian restaurant for lunch.  There was a deal with a big sign out front.  This is the price for this meal.  I said OK, I want that meal.  The restaurant person said that is for Indians only.


OK...  I didn't question it at first because I was in a hurry.  But then I was like, uhhhh.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
March 2nd, 2012 4:30pm
agree: racism
Permalink Idiot 
March 2nd, 2012 4:50pm
I don't think it was intentional.  It was more a traditional indian dish I guess.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
March 2nd, 2012 4:51pm
Did you insist on getting it?

Maybe he thought the taste wouldn't be appreciated by most non-Indians?

What was the meal?
Permalink Attila 
March 2nd, 2012 4:52pm
Oh, probably monkey brain or cobra eyes or such.
Permalink Idiot 
March 2nd, 2012 4:52pm
You could have just said you were Indian?
Permalink Kenny 
March 2nd, 2012 4:53pm
He should totally try that.
Permalink Idiot 
March 2nd, 2012 4:57pm
Did they make you pay in advance before they would serve you?
Permalink Fan boy 
March 2nd, 2012 8:17pm
It was a quick to go lunch.  I noticed a special in the window.  I asked for the special and was cock blocked.

OK...
Permalink Bot Berlin 
March 2nd, 2012 8:19pm
You should send a white friend in there to try ordering as a non-indian and find out if this is actually a black thing.

I have heard that there are some places where restaurants have issues with black diners, whether because they are supposedly lousy tippers, or possibly other reasons.
Permalink Idiot 
March 2nd, 2012 9:07pm
Isn't this, like, the kind of thing that could get them shut down?
Permalink Colm 
March 2nd, 2012 9:27pm
Lots of Indians are super-racist against black people.

See
e.g.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1997936,00.html
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 2nd, 2012 9:48pm
That's not very convincing actually.

Cannibal stereotypes are not necessarily racist. Like in the last Pirates of the Carribean movie they had cannibal stereotypes, but the audience knows it's not real. Likewise for sports drink ads.
Permalink Idiot 
March 2nd, 2012 10:08pm
I just picked a random, google Indian racism if you want more.

I also know from personal knowledge that anti-black racism is extremely widespread among Indians, especially those from East Africa.
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 2nd, 2012 10:33pm
I don't think my mum knows what facebook is.

She's never used it, except on my computer, when I've open my album to show her pictures.  She probably doesn't even know that was facebook.

The google thing has been on lots of TV and newspapers.  I'm sure she understood zero details. By if it's on TV and newspapers about them invading your privacy, then it must be serious.
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 2nd, 2012 10:38pm
Damn wrong thread.
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 2nd, 2012 10:38pm
Racism in bangalore ?
http://wn.com/Bangalore_pubs_bar_entry_of_Africans_Part_4_of_10
Permalink Matchu 
March 3rd, 2012 12:53am
Not that I'm excusing the restaurant - but perhaps the meal deal was so weird or unpalatable to non-Indians that they would rather turn down all non Indians than have you come back and throw it in their face and want a refund because it looked like/tasted like/had the texture of mucous/feces/wet diapers. I'm serious, it might be something that is inherently gross to Americans.
Permalink Bored Bystander 
March 3rd, 2012 2:42am
Yes, that was the fist thing that occurred to me also.  Also, many Americans don't like very hot (spicy) curry, so it might be that.
Permalink Troglodyte 
March 3rd, 2012 6:14am
They should have made Bot sign a release of liability so he could order lunch.
Permalink Bored Bystander 
March 3rd, 2012 1:17pm
Happened to me a few times, e.g. when buying cosmetics in oriental countries (the saleswomen guessed correctly that I wouldn't believe the rejuvenating properties of some filthy mud or roots). I also took it for racism at first :-)
On the other hand, I am often offered discounts by my compatriots in London.
Permalink s7h_black 
March 3rd, 2012 2:49pm
"Lots of Indians are super-racist against black people."

I have heard a number of times from Indians that I have worked with that one of the driving factors is that they are very worried about being mistaken as being Black.  The fear is so great they will go overboard to stress how sophisticated Indians are and how rich their culture is, and declare Africa as a continent of uneducated, violent, backward, unsophisticated and hopeless peoples.

Of course all of that born out of racism.

Don't even try to tell them "hey your skin tone is the same as an African-American".  They will go ballistic.

In the Indian community it is common for parents tell their children to "lighten their race".  In other words marry a light skinned Indian.
Permalink Xander 
March 3rd, 2012 5:15pm
Do african americans have a caste system?

Do they burn their brides after collecting the dowry?

Is harlem beseiged with cholera?

Do african americans normally bury their dead by dumping the bodies in the Hudson?
Permalink Idiot 
March 3rd, 2012 5:18pm
There is a thing about fairness among Indians.  And North Indians are also racist against South Indians (who tend to be darker and sound funny to North Indians).  South Indians tend to not be to happy that North Indians dominate the government, and push Hindi language - that is why South Indian prefer English.

But that is separate from anti-black racism.

In India itself, I'm sure it's mostly ignorance and general prejudice.  I've heard Indians compare say Indian villages to Africa, along the lines of criticizing Indian villagers, but saying it isn't as bad as Africa, at least they don't eat each other, and Indian villagers, and work and so on. 

But also remember a lot of Indians in West countries came from Kenya, Uganda, etc., where, until recently, they were educated literate, rich merchants, doctors, business people, etc., and the blacks were illiterate farmers and manual workers.
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 3rd, 2012 5:37pm
Fairness.

Nice choice of words.
Permalink Troglodyte 
March 4th, 2012 2:16pm
Fairskinnedness?
Permalink MobyDobie 
March 4th, 2012 5:29pm
If an indian says that someone is fair, it typically means that the other person has fair skin.
Permalink Matchu 
March 5th, 2012 12:01pm

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