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NPR backs down after Apple threats

After Apple threatened to "dismantle" NPR for running its exposé on Apple's Chinese slave factories, the product of months of investigations and research, NPR has withdrawn the series and issued an apology to Apple. According to NPR, they agree that no abuses of any kind have ever occured in any Apple factory and Apple respects and upholds all legitimate labor laws in countries where their fine products are proudly made by well paid and happy workers.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/460/retraction
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 2:25pm
"...cannot display this webpage..."
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 2:29pm
Oh dear, they died.  Slash-dotted after all this time.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 2:30pm
Apple fan-boys are harsh.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 2:30pm
Apple and the Chinese government produced Cathy, the translator that the investigator used while in China. She said everything he says is a lie and they never saw anything like he says.

Asked about this, the reporter says he used the name Cathy in the article to protect the translator's identity, her real name was not Cathy at all.

Nevertheless, he will never work in this industry again and Apple is filing multiple lawsuits against him for defamation.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 2:31pm
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/16/148761812/this-american-life-retracts-mike-daiseys-apple-factory-story

That might get through the Apple filter.  Not that there is one.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 2:49pm
Well, apparently he's an entertainer doing a theater piece, so he doesn't work in this industry to begin with.

And they're spinning it as a theater story mistakenly released as journalism, and apologizing for that.

It's odd that the Chinese are complaining about an incident which DID happen, just not where and when he said it happened.  I guess connecting that incident to Apple really was inaccurate, though.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 2:53pm
There are no worker abuses in China. There have never been worker abuses in China.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 2:57pm
Of course there are worker abuses in China.

But if you let an entertainer do a theater piece, AS IF it was true documented fact-checked journalism, then you might as well be Fox News where the truth doesn't matter.

Not to mention, when you do this, you allow China to use that to call into question ALL reports about worker abuses in China.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 16th, 2012 3:00pm
TAL fact checked the story.  A lot of it checked out, some was speculation / exaggeration, and it said so in the story itself.
Permalink the great purple 
March 16th, 2012 3:30pm
Aren't the chinese populace generally accustomed to working hard? Gladwell's quote is 'no one who can rise before dawn 360 days a year fails to make his family rich'. Of course the long term result is abject poverty everywhere else.
Permalink Bill42x 
March 16th, 2012 3:34pm
Ah, I see. "What makes this a little complicated is that the things Daisey lied about seeing are things that have actually happened in China: Workers making Apple products have been poisoned by Hexane. Apple's own audits show (PDF) the company has caught underage workers at a handful of its suppliers. These things are rare, but together, they form an easy-to-understand narrative about Apple."

a) I don't think that the retraction means that no abuses occur in China.
b) I'm glad I listened to the story before it was pulled; as a piece that makes you care about working conditions in China, it does in fact make you think twice about where our shiny gadgets come from.
Permalink the great purple 
March 16th, 2012 3:34pm
"I'm glad I listened to the story before it was pulled; as a piece that makes you care about working conditions in China, it does in fact make you think twice about where our shiny gadgets come from."

Only for a nice person like you.

Who cares. We all work hard!
Permalink Send private email Rick from Nexus S 
March 16th, 2012 3:57pm
"Workers making Apple products have been poisoned by Hexane. Apple's own audits show (PDF) the company has caught underage workers at a handful of its suppliers."

Shut up you, none of that happened. It was all retracted after the so-called journalist lied and made it all up! Lying Mericans! Say bad things about our country. All proven liessss!
Permalink Wong Tong 
March 16th, 2012 4:02pm
Streaming on their site has been disabled for this episode but they forgot to remove this link.

Grab it while you can.

http://podcast.thisamericanlife.org/podcast/454.mp3
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 4:21pm
It's pretty obviously a story teller telling a funny story in an entertaining manner. What he says is true, the details have been switched around to facilitate story telling, that's how entertainment works. Compare to Jon Stewart.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 4:26pm
Idiot, are you Daisey by any chance? If not, perhaps you should offer to work for him, given you can't even get basic facts right - it is not an NPR show.
Permalink el 
March 16th, 2012 6:26pm
He doesn't have an NPR show, dipshit. He does a travelling performance. NPR asked him to do a shortened version for their show on american culture. He did. Then they attacked him using a bogus translator he never met and when he called them on it, they issued multiple attack pieces against him, all as part of a campaign to justify Chinese labor abuses and Apple's slave shop policies as "proven wrong".
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 6:34pm
Sigh.

You mean "This American Life"? Made by Public Radio International? An NPR competitor.

Like I said, your grasp of basic facts is as hazy as a Daisey.
Permalink el 
March 16th, 2012 6:57pm
OK, fine. I've been listening to it for years and thought it was an NPR show.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 7:46pm
Huh, locally it airs on my PBS radio station, which is aka NPR.

Let's see.

http://www2.pri.org/ProgramStationLocator/ProgramLocator.aspx

> "Find PRI Affiliate Stations in your area. Over 750 public radio stations across the U.S. carry PRI programming."

Ah, right. So I was right and you are full of shit. You almost got me, you sounded very confident.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 7:48pm
Your argument seems ot be that Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers aren't PBS shows because, although they are produced for PBS and are exclusively broadcast on PBS stations and start with PBS logos, the actual production company is not actually part of PBS Corporation, but produces shows for them.

Hardly a "competitor" as you term it.
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 7:51pm
Sigh again...

No, NPR amd PRI are separate entities that compete to provide content for PBS stations.

So saying NPR backed down is totally false.

Daisey prodcued a whole load of bullshit to satisfy his ego and false agenda. Which is sad because it will mask real problems with labour standards in China.
Permalink el 
March 16th, 2012 10:25pm
OK fine.

Corrected title:


PBS backs down after Apple threats
Permalink Idiot 
March 16th, 2012 10:43pm

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