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This place has been making a lot of noice lately, , and they are hoping that developers will all develop apps for their 'webos' instead of windows, mac or linux, and I'm curious to know your opinions on how likely this is to happen, I mean really?
Permalink Send private email Mikael Bergkvist 
March 8th, 2007 12:57am
server down?

what noise? this is the first I heard of them.

Permalink bob 
March 8th, 2007 12:59am
Well, I'm swedish, and Xcerion has made a lot of noice here.. it's the idea that sounds slightly off to me, that a webos is going to be the *actual* new OS, the platform developers of >>pc software<< will choose to develop new apps, over existing OS.

This idea has been floating around for a while, which is why I reacted..

I think the idea of a *web desktop* is kinda kewl in a sorta nerdy way and I made one myself, but these guys are dead serious about this OS thing, all_the_way.

I'm just curious, are they the ones that are bonkers, or is it me?

They have developed a 'xml webos' based on xml/xslt and behaviors on the client, and apps are supposedly being created in xml fairly quickly..(as always (´_`);;)
It's a 1MB download, not unlike bindows ( but even more xml-centric.

Now, does anyone think that developers will flock to such a thing and drop windows/linux/mac?
- Where the hell does this come from?
Permalink Send private email Mikael Bergkvist 
March 8th, 2007 1:25am
it will _never_ win on personal computers, they already have an OS that the user has to navigate though.

I think it has a place on smaller stuff, the huge advantage of a remote webOS from the POV of the provider is that (a) its a service and (b) it can be updated entirely painlessly.

I can definitely see phones, PDA's and whatnot benefiting from them, they can run locally until they detect a network and people understand the browser more than they understand their OS.

just thinking about it a little more, although there are advantages with roaming profiles, updating and so on, the real killer advantage is the degree of virtualisation offered...virtualisation is an increasing part of computing, the advantages are obvious in the business realm, but there are also major advantages in the user realm and a webOS is basically a virtualisation solution.
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 8th, 2007 2:07am
the idea is interesting, but there are a lot of crap assumptions in there that make me unsure about reading further.

Like "There are many startups out there trying to create the next service. Everyone beginning from zero, developing the application, underlying platform, server technology and building the huge 24x7 server park required for a reliable global service."

You get so many components ready-made, and you also have the possibility of outsourcing lots of this. Third party hosting is still a very strong option for many businesses (one or two dedicated machines can take a LOT of traffic if you do the job right .... )

So it's not really clear to me who's pain they trying to solve, or if it really hurts enough.

BTW I put my name and email in the little box at your site to find out more about what you're doing, but received a reply, Mikael ...
Permalink $-- 
March 8th, 2007 4:56am
it's a very confused message.

are they talkiong about *building* web apps?

or about being able to host your desktop and docs on the net?

two entirely different games.
Permalink $-- 
March 8th, 2007 5:00am
"We belive that a webos is an enviroment for developing new apps"

now _that_ is a nice idea.  honestly the one roaming profile I would _love_ to have is my dev environment.

so who is going to use xin?
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 8th, 2007 6:46am

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