Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

I'll buy my new battery powered car in 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/business/yourmoney/11stream.htm - A New Battery Takes Off in a Race to Electric Cars

G.M. hopes to begin selling the first car, a plug-in hybrid version of the Saturn Vue sport utility, as soon as 2009. The second, the Chevrolet Volt, which exists only as a concept-model prototype, is a startling departure from traditional automotive design. The Volt’s internal combustion engine is not attached to the drive train as current hybrids are. In the case of the Volt, it is used only to recharge the vehicle’s batteries. In short, the Volt would function as a true electric car, with the insurance of an internal combustion engine — and not coincidentally it is also designed as a recognizably conventional American compact, seating five, which could drive hundreds of miles to Mother’s at Thanksgiving.

“The real breakthrough is with the new batteries, which offered us energy density — which in turn provided us with a reliable, high-powered package in a relatively small space,” Mr. Zelenski said.

I am sure GM will screw it up somehow.
Permalink son of parnas 
March 12th, 2007 11:45am
Off the top of my head, the Volt would need extremely powerful electric motors. Significantly more powerful than the assist motors used in today's hybrids.
Permalink Send private email Flasher T 
March 12th, 2007 11:50am
It's not the motors -- we HAVE powerful electric motors.  It's the battery.

A long life, high power storage, high amp-hour (same thing), deep discharge battery is easy to say, but difficult to build.

On the other hand, efficient electric motors and generators we've had for quite some time.  The major loss of efficiency is in the part of the process that involves burning stuff to get a turbine spinning.  Once you have a generator spinning, the motion-to-electric part is very efficient.

In other words, once we HAVE the electricity we can move it around and turn it into motion pretty efficiently.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 12th, 2007 12:06pm
GM has recently signed agreements with two LiIon battery suppliers.  They've also appointed a vehicle manager, which they only do when a car is destined for production.  So things are looking up for the Volt.

I'd buy one -- I looked at getting a Smart, but they just don't go fast enough to cope with my interstate-only commute.  With it's 40 mile range (while on battery), if I could convince the company to install a charging station in the parking deck, I'd never burn any gas.

Permalink xampl 
March 12th, 2007 2:36pm
I'm still waiting for my double A batteries to recharge from last evening so I can see the pix I took of a melting ice on a lake by a beach last night.
Permalink Send private email strawberry snowflake 
March 12th, 2007 2:53pm
What are the numbers as far as batteries and their power consumption compared to the fossil fuel they replace?

Why is it better than ethanol with respect to the need to burn coal for the energy to make/charge them?
Permalink JoC 
March 13th, 2007 12:36pm
The problem with ethanol is land consumption.
Permalink trollop 
March 13th, 2007 6:45pm

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