Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

God answers prayers. At least a little.

Since a prayed against this outcome I really wonder, but...

http://www.physorg.com/news93105311.html - Does God answer prayer? ASU research says 'yes'

“There have been a number of studies on intercessory prayer, or prayer offered for the benefit of another person,” said Hodge, a leading expert on spirituality and religion. “Some have found positive results for prayer. Others have found no effect. Conducting a meta-analysis takes into account the entire body of empirical research on intercessory prayer. Using this procedure, we find that prayer offered on behalf of another yields positive results.”


I never quite believe meta analysis studies. I don't trust the underlying studies or the data mining to extract out the original data.
Permalink son of parnas 
March 15th, 2007 5:31pm
Surely step 1 is to first establish whether God exists before we make studies as to His promptness in responding to His heavenly email?
Permalink Bluebeard 
March 15th, 2007 5:38pm
> I never quite believe meta analysis studies.

Good for you.  Didn't we cover that with the horoscope & health correlation thread? 20 hypotheses, a 95% confidence interval, and reams of previously collected data. Voila! 1 wrong conclusion.
Permalink zed 
March 15th, 2007 5:43pm
When I first read these studies I was excited. I never assumed a God was answering because the results were so weak. But there could be some other force we don't understand. Since the studies were mostly debunked it doesn't matter.
Permalink son of parnas 
March 15th, 2007 5:43pm
> Didn't we cover that with the horoscope & health correlation thread?

No idea. Referring to a different thread is always pathetic anyway.
Permalink son of parnas 
March 15th, 2007 5:44pm
ora ut labora.
Permalink Send private email sour grape snowflake 
March 15th, 2007 5:53pm
> No idea. Referring to a different thread
> is always pathetic anyway.

What a fucking bitch.  fuck you sop.
Permalink zed 
March 15th, 2007 6:05pm
> What a fucking bitch. 

The common reaction of the hurt and threatened male animal.

> fuck you sop.

You already said that when you said "Good for you."
Permalink son of parnas 
March 15th, 2007 6:08pm
heh, don't stop now kiddies... not while you're both on a roll
Permalink Bluebeard 
March 15th, 2007 6:12pm
I think zed and sop should kiss and have hot make-up sex!

And then put it on YouTube for the rest of us to watch!
Permalink Horatio Horndog 
March 15th, 2007 6:17pm
"Surely step 1 is to first establish whether God exists before we make studies as to His promptness in responding to His heavenly email?"

not really. Just because an action produces some effect, doesn't mean it's happening due to the mechanism that the person performing the action believes in.

As anyone who has ever chased nasty bugs on big hardware systems for days on end will tell you ...
Permalink $-- 
March 16th, 2007 6:53am
That's a good point. It's like saying we can't hold a person responsible for a crime until we figure out with absolute certainty whether there is free will ... um, that doesn't go far.
Permalink Send private email sour grape snowflake 
March 16th, 2007 9:53am
What a load of crap...
Permalink bob's your uncle 
March 16th, 2007 12:04pm
"It's like saying we can't hold a person responsible for a crime until we figure out with absolute certainty whether there is free will ... um, that doesn't go far."

Balls.

I'm saying if you want to hold hold someone responsible for the crime, make sure that someone is actually there first.
Permalink Bluebeard 
March 16th, 2007 2:34pm

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