RIP Philo

The guy I replaced at my job

Is being rehired in a few days.

This ought to prove interesting.  He'll be looking to prove himself and I'll have to work harder just to avoid looking under-productive by comparison.

Chances of inducting him into the Scotty club: minimal at best.

Damn it.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 6:53pm
"Scotty club"
??
Permalink Send private email xampl 
March 21st, 2007 7:14pm
Scotty on Star Trek had a habit of overestimating the time needed to complete a task by a comfy margin.

I think this guy is going to bulldoze through our backlog to establish his value, which will make us look like douches.

Of course, he won't have to handle ad hoc support tickets, but our management doesn't give us much credit for having to handle those.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 7:18pm
Why is he being rehired?  How did he lose his job?
Permalink Send private email Wayne 
March 21st, 2007 7:49pm
He had some sort of personal crisis a few months before I was hired and took off out of state with no notice to chase after some girlfriend, iirc.

He's apparently matured since then, and we have a ton of open positions due a 3 year hiring freeze, and the management is hot to hire him because many of them are friendly with the guy on a personal level.

To be fair, he does have legacy experience that could be an asset.

I'm not too thrilled about this move, though.  We'll see.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 7:53pm
They got approval to fill one position due our low numbers, of course, or else the freeze would prevent his hire.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 8:00pm
"I think this guy is going to bulldoze through our backlog to establish his value, which will make us look like douches."

Uh, if one guy can clear your backlog quickly enough for management to notice...
Permalink Send private email Philo 
March 21st, 2007 8:21pm
The ad hoc shit takes more time than management will either recognize or admit.  As well, getting interrupted during a complex rewrite often means losing a few hours' work to backtracking.  Multiply that by several interruptions.

He'll be able to blow through a lot of backlog by simple virtue of not being interrupted with on-the-fly shit for awhile, since he'll be the "new guy".
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 8:57pm
In short, our department is run like a monkey house.

When I was first hired, I plowed through shit like crazy.  Other programmers were telling me to slow the fuck down.

Once management had confidence in me, they started throwing every ad hoc bullshit request that graced their desks at me, and my productivity has never been that high again.

it's also why my job makes me nuts.

Of course, they'll forget all about my former productivity levels when the dude I replaced starts "outperforming" me shortly after his hire.  They'll look at it in isolation because of the history involved.

I work for morons.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 8:59pm
To add some additional context: our management doesn't say "no" to ANYTHING.  EVERY request is entered into our queue.  There are no chargebacks to any other department for use of IS resources.  We're "free" to the rest of the organization.  We have no filter, because our bosses want to stay in the good graces of everyone.

As a consequence, our inboxes are stuffed full of inane requests and the only way ANYTHING gets done is by the "squeaky wheel" method.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 9:02pm
...which leads to the Scotty method.  I frequently estimate tasks that take 2-3 hours at 40-60 hours simply because I know I will be interrupted a dozen times from start to finish and will have to re-acquire my train of thought each time.  This is pretty standard on my floor.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 21st, 2007 9:07pm
if he proves too keen, cant you arrange to have something break on him?  an arm, a leg, maybe a few of his fingers?
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 21st, 2007 10:16pm
Well, you've previously posted stories that make your manager(s) sound like retards, so "they accept every request that comes in" fits.

You usually have additional reasons why you're painted into a corner, so something like the following probably won't work: couldn't all of you who are getting constant interruptions get together and agree that, "this week, muppet shuts his door and doesn't respond to anything and just blows through the queue.  Next week, fozzie does the same thing, and so on..."  A few weeks later, you've demonstrated the loss of productivity caused by the shitty workload management.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
March 21st, 2007 10:42pm
ah, ward...I dont think you are _really_ listenting to what muppet is saying.  His underlying message is clear as a bell if you just take the time to read it.


try again to think it through.  read his post.  what is he trying to tell us?
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 21st, 2007 10:46pm
Well, I'm pretty sure he wasn't looking for advice on how to have sex with sheep, so it's good that you haven't contributed anything.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
March 21st, 2007 10:58pm
wow, you really nailed me that time ward. way to use a combination of my outsider status as a new zealander and a common social preconditioning against sheep shagging to personally abuse me.

hey! look! over there!  its a sitting duck!  go on ward, its an easy shot, and shotgun pellets are cheap, you know you want to...
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 21st, 2007 11:03pm
Since I have no idea what you were getting at, the blunt instrument approach of calling you a sheep fucker was the best comeback I could think of.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
March 21st, 2007 11:08pm
You two need to stop denying your undeniable man-love for each other!!
Permalink Tell the truth! 
March 21st, 2007 11:12pm
oh, right.  fair enough then.  actually it just so happens its true, but I still really resent the idea that just because I live in new zealand you have the right to assume it.


actually I was just trying to subtly point out that muppet clearly isn't quoting 40 hours for 2 hours work because he is scared of a dozen or so interruptions, he is doing it because he wants to spend 40 hours doing 2 hours work.

but there, now youve gone and made me be explicit about it and muppet is going to abuse me.

you are _such_ an asshole ward.  you could move to muppets house and replace his diseased one.  its what a friend would do.
Permalink Send private email zestyZuchini 
March 21st, 2007 11:13pm
Heh, no, I don't want to spend 40 hours doing two hours work.  It's mind numbing in the extreme.  Been there, done that.  Now I want to get shit done.  Actually working gets the day done much faster than refreshing this sorry site.

What I'm saying is that I work in a monkey house and I'm tired of occasionally getting in the crossfire when feces are thrown.

Which is why it's a good thing I'm going to school very soon.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 22nd, 2007 7:37am
he'll likely join the scotty club on his own after he's proven himself (again).

nobody likes to work harder than they have to and it sounds like your employers don't reward above par performance.

i say greet him with open arms.  he'll probably prove to be an excellent asset and a good person to have on your side.  a growing company is always more fun to work for than one that's stagnating.
Permalink Send private email Kenny 
March 22nd, 2007 11:39am
We're a non-profit.  As stagnant as it gets.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 22nd, 2007 11:42am
Nope.  State & Local govt. is stagnant.
Permalink xampl 
March 22nd, 2007 12:54pm

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