Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

People are confused on who the bad guys are

"Wow, that AJ stuff reads like real news. Why can't CNN report real news?"
Permalink Bot Berlin 
March 24th, 2007 9:17am
Fair point.

Or were you trying to say that "Iran are the bad guys"?
Permalink Colm 
March 24th, 2007 9:22am
No, trying to say that AJ is a manipulative information source.  Of course they want to paint Iran as just 'protecting' their waters. 

Isnt there some protocol where Iran could have contacted the british forces before actually capturing them?  The whole thing seems fishy to me.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
March 24th, 2007 9:31am
>Of course they want to paint Iran as just 'protecting' their waters.

They just QUOTED Iranian authorities, something CNN failed to do.

Naturally, taking a quote is anti-American, unpatriotic and should be stopped.
Permalink Colm 
March 24th, 2007 9:38am
>Isnt there some protocol where Iran could have contacted
>the british forces before actually capturing them?

If there were, it seems likely that the foreign office would have mentioned it by now.
Permalink Colm 
March 24th, 2007 9:38am
-----"Isnt there some protocol where Iran could have contacted
>the british forces before actually capturing them?"------

It's called firing across the boughs, except the British dingheys didn't seem to have any.

The Gulf is both narrow and shallow. It would have been easy for either side to have strayed into the other's waters.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
March 24th, 2007 11:11am
Iran's just itching for a fight. They are trying to start a war.
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 24th, 2007 2:09pm
Apparently the water at that place is claimed by both countries!

And its bows not boughs. Serves me right for posting from work instead of from home where I have time to check.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
March 24th, 2007 4:00pm
The al Jazeera article, which I agree is one of the better articles on this out there, suggests that Iran agreed in a 1975 treaty that the waterway belongs to Iraq.

No map was provided though. Is it this dinky little thing?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=29.957314,48.414001&spn=0.862606,0.858307&om=1
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 24th, 2007 4:53pm
AP version of the story, with inadequate map:

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa070323_wz_iranbrit.b11519f.html
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 24th, 2007 4:58pm
"The Iranian boats normally carry bow-mounted machine guns, while the British boarding party carried only sidearms, Aandahl said."

heh.  why bring a sidearm to a bow-mounted machine gun fight.


This is Iran making a point.  poor bush is going to be driven to a frothing mouth rage by the time they have finished.  but he cannot invade Iran.  he doesn't have the political muscle to do so. 

I almost feel sorry for him.  his fantasies are falling apart and there is no one to explain why.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
March 24th, 2007 6:43pm
>  he doesn't have the political muscle to do so. 

nor the military.

the tanks, the bradly fighting vehicles, the helicopters. all worn out.

300-400B to recapitalize. getting worse every day.
Permalink neo-conned 
March 24th, 2007 7:04pm
>Iran's just itching for a fight. They are trying to start a war.

I think they're trying to prevent one actually, by doing some rather crazy brinkmanship. Appeasement obviously won't work otherwise Iraq would be a relative peaceful country run by Saddam Hussein right now.
Permalink Colm 
March 24th, 2007 9:49pm
I don't think so. Taking soldiers prisoner is how wars get started - that was how Lebanon got their ass kicked.
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 24th, 2007 11:15pm
Lebanon got their ass kicked, but Hezbollah didn't.

Also, kidnapping of soldiers had happened before on several occasions under Sharon, and only in 2006 under Ehud I-don't-want-to-be-seen-as-a-pussy Olmert did a war ensue.
Permalink Colm 
March 24th, 2007 11:30pm
Hezbollah most certainly got their ass kicked. And then they declared victory.
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 25th, 2007 1:35am

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