Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

So let me see if I understand this

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070324/ap_on_sc/arctic_bonanza;_ylt=Ar6sMRJX8g9P29HXlxW.pdEDW7oF

Global warming fucks up the arctic, melts a shit-ton of ice, and exposes some new land in the process.

The world's reaction:  Hey look!  More non-renewable fossil fuel!  MINE!!!
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 26th, 2007 12:25pm
Oh no... the dreaded pastry ban.

"Some Canadians even called for a boycott of Danish pastries."
Permalink JoC 
March 26th, 2007 12:32pm
FREEDOM PASTRIES!!
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 26th, 2007 12:34pm
The pastry thing was a joke. It was a play on the whole freedom fries thing.

Canada's primary concern with Hans Island has to do with shipping lanes as the Northern passage opens up, and will inevitably become one of the most important avenues of traffic around North America.
Permalink DF 
March 26th, 2007 12:38pm
You forgot to mention the DIAMONDS!

Still, I've sometime thought -- warmer up north, this is a PROBLEM?  Now, glaciers moving into Chicago, THAT would be a problem.

And my heart bleeds for those poor Inuit eskimo's, whose entire way of life somehow depends on living someplace that's frozen solid 6 months of the year.  Give me a break.  They've got rifles.  They've got boats.  It seems to me MUCH easier to adapt to "oh, look, we can go fishing" than it was to adapt to the cold and "oh, look, here comes a polar bear over the ice floe to kill us!"
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 26th, 2007 12:42pm
Rising sea levels STH?
Permalink school kid 
March 26th, 2007 12:46pm
And if you wonder why there's a dispute, look at the mapping of the UN agreed to border between Canada and Greenland.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Nares_strait_border_%28Kennedy_channel%29.png
Permalink DF 
March 26th, 2007 12:49pm
What dispute?  Clearly they each get half.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
March 26th, 2007 12:50pm
I believe the "Rising sea levels" being called out are in the one to two foot range.

Is this a problem?  Holland has dealt with "sinking land" for generations.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a moderate Democrat, AND an engineer.  Taking the world for granted, and fossil fuels for granted, and just 'dumping' our exhaust into the atmosphere because it's convenient and "cost effective", are all bad things to do.

The question is, again as an engineer, how do we make any alternative cost effective?  And how do we avoid the Chicken-Little running around crying "the sky is falling!"?  Because Global Warming DOES have its good aspects.  And so far, none of the proposals put forth to limit Greenhouse Gasses are going to limit Greenhouse Gasses very much.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 26th, 2007 12:53pm
It looks like that island is 2km wide. Does it really have some huge abundance of resources? It's not all that big.

You could build an island that big.
Permalink JoC 
March 26th, 2007 12:56pm
As we found in the South Pacific during WW-II, islands are extremely helpful.

They keep your stuff (airplanes, oil-rigs, supplies) from sinking.

And "making" an island is not as easy as all that, especially in someplace cold and stormy.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 26th, 2007 1:14pm
and deep
Permalink Send private email Kenny 
March 26th, 2007 2:10pm
it won't be that deep. it'll only be a couple meters below sea level after global thawing.
Permalink Send private email strawberry snowflake 
March 26th, 2007 3:21pm
The previously given may seriously distorts the geography.

As you can see here:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=6&ll=80.781758,-66.708984&spn=1.80814,14.084473&om=1

Hans Island is undoubtedly on the Canadian side of the passage. The Danes are crazy here, they have no case.
Permalink Practical Economist 
March 26th, 2007 6:29pm
>it won't be that deep. it'll only be a couple meters below sea level after global thawing.<

Whereupon Exxon will find it again.
Permalink trollop 
March 26th, 2007 6:45pm

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