RIP Philo

stalking DF

I got "off" caffeine by alternating to 1/2 decaf coffee, and then to 3/4, and then entirely decaf. Of course then I decided that it's a hassle, so I have several real coffees a day, but.....

Dennis Forbes
Wednesday, November 16, 2005 

(BTW: The only reason I cut caffeine out of my diet was a trip to Italy - I'd heard that I probably wouldn't like the coffee there, which was true, and it wouldn't be nearly as accessible as the coffeeshop-on-every-corner that you find here, which was also true)
Permalink long winded blowhard 
March 28th, 2007 8:51pm
Have we really made great leaps in longevity? I mean sure the average lifespan has increased, but that has largely been the result of dratistically decreased infant mortality. Apart from that most of our "breakthroughs" have been dealing with the problems caused by other "breakthroughs" (i.e. one has to wonder if the fight against cancer is merely battling the results of many other man made issues). I mean I just read about how kids today are the most obese that they've ever been, so given that heart disease and diabetes are two of the biggest killers, it seems like life expectency will be following a negative trend.

Dennis Forbes
Friday, August 22, 2003
Permalink long winded blowhard 
March 28th, 2007 8:53pm
I agree with Dennis, and it's a good example of how misreading statistics can give the wrong idea.

Our average longevity *has* steadily increased, but it's not that medicine has pushed out the absolute maximum a body can live, but made it easier for people to make it there. I suspect a 100 year old man today would be in much the same condition as a 100 year old man was in 1900. It's just that in 1900 there was probably only one, while today there are dozens.

Friday, August 22, 2003
Permalink long winded blowhard 
March 28th, 2007 8:55pm
WTF! That last one was Philo, beyotch. Are you stalking Philo too?

Come on. Stick to me.
Permalink DF 
March 28th, 2007 11:02pm
Oh, and to update that old thread: I still drink coffee, but grind my own at the grocery store, allowing me to mix in 2/3rd decaf.

Thought you should know.
Permalink DF 
March 28th, 2007 11:05pm
Thanks for the update.
March 28th, 2007 11:07pm
I don't really want to die, but I don't think I want to live forever either. I'll just stick to the full strength stuff.
Permalink JoC 
March 29th, 2007 10:19am
I think you're good with the caffeine anyways -- dunno if there's really anything reliable about it causing long-term damage. For me the cutback was purely to reduce dependence, and because I always am drinking something, so full-strength left me with a wicked headache (and made me, contrary to common wisdom, tired).
Permalink DF 
March 29th, 2007 11:36am
Hmm, I get headaches if I don't have any caffeine within an eight hour stretch or so.

I have heard caffeine increases blood pressure, not a long term consequence though. Still, not so great for me. My dad and all three of his brothers have had heart attacks, one of them at my spry age of 27.

Eventually my love for bacon and everything else laden with unnecessary levels of cholesterol will have to be reduced. Sad for a man whose first instinct with a prime rib is to cut off and consume all the fat.

I'm hoping some evil pharma company will make a really good pill before I need it.
Permalink JoC 
March 29th, 2007 11:55am

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