Sanding our assholes with 150 grit.

Speaking of psychopaths

Apart from liking the "classic" Joel writing much better than the inanely boring stuff he's been cranking out recently, is anyone else bothered by how extremely condescending he is? From the latest "Draft":

".. the dustboys, er, sanitation engineers..." yeah and the stupid fuckers probably don't even know VBA, let alone pointers. Apparently, he's also got an axe to grind with people who give a shit about the environment "YOU DON'T WANT TO KILL BIRDIES, DO YOU?", then there's the "Effete Yuppie Listening to His iPod", and finally the "Strangely Haunted Vietnam-Era Veteran" he envisions killing the yuppie.

I'm not going searching through his other recent writings, but that presumptuous attitude has been bothering me for a while. And his run-on sentence, busy manhattanite style of writing makes me wonder if he's on meth:

"No. Because at some point, someone will hit it by mistake, and no sound will come out of the speakers, and if they don't know about "mute," they'll start trying to turn up the volume knob all the way, so when they do finally unmute the thing, the speakers will blow out with an ear-shattering boom that creates permanent, concave warps in each of the walls of the room where the sound system was installed (and a matching hump in the floor of the apartment upstairs)."

By the way, I'm not bitching because he kicked us out, but because he wrote some really great articles in the past. Shame, really,
  -tim
Permalink Send private email a2800276 
January 26th, 2006 7:15pm
great.  lets turn this entire forum in an 'I hate Joel' site. 

come on people. lets have more jokes about muppets bleeding buttocks and fewer attacks on some random guy.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
January 26th, 2006 7:17pm
Some random guy? You're talking about the guy who just slandered and evicted a community...expect a bit of anti-Joel sentiment for a bit.
Permalink Blah 
January 26th, 2006 7:23pm
Slandered and evicted a community of 50 who nobody gives a shit about and who will not convince anyone to give a shit about them.

Get over it.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 7:24pm
50? Where did the other 40 come from?
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 26th, 2006 7:25pm
Uh, we're talking amongst ourselves douche. Quit trying to jump between Mr. ADD and Mr. Reasonable. It just doesn't work.
Permalink Blah 
January 26th, 2006 7:25pm
Yes ok fine let's all obsess and cry over it and make Joel feel powerful.

Whatever.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 7:25pm
BTW, I gotta say - that *muppet* is the one saying "get over it, move on" is a bit ironic, isn't it?

(granted, not as ironic as if *I* had said it, but still...)

Philo
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 26th, 2006 7:25pm
muppet just swaps to whatever position lets him imagine that he's above the other participants.
Permalink Blah 
January 26th, 2006 7:26pm
No, hey, I was pissed.  Horribly pissed.  I'm still pissed.

But I bitched, and I commiserated, and now I'm done.

It's been 24 hours.  That's more than enough time to be Joel's bitch.  He did something.  We're all reacting to it.  How long are we going to continue reacting to Joel's stimulus?  The time has past.  It's done.  We're done.  We SHOULD be done, anyway.

Now you're just being willing bitches.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 7:27pm
So he's a top?
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 26th, 2006 7:27pm
"Some random guy? You're talking about the guy who just slandered and evicted a community...expect a bit of anti-Joel sentiment for a bit."

yeah, but we've had a bit.  now its getting seriously boring.  frankly its bordering on psychopathic :)

...besides, the community has survived in all its troubling glory, so really theres nothing to be bitter about.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
January 26th, 2006 7:27pm
And if the intenion of the wailing and the gnashing of teeth is to "set the record straight" because Joel lied his ass off, well then, you're not accomplishing that here.  We all know the truth.  Nobody outside this forum CARES about the truth anyway, but this is the LAST place to be evangelizing it if in fact that's what you want to do.  :)

I made mention of Joel's crap on k5 where an article regarding the whole thing was posted.  I also mentioned it in another place that I forget now.  I'm done now, but if you really want to set folks straight, the place to do it is ELSEWHERE where you're not preaching to the choir.

Realize that if you DO choose to go set people straight that 99.99% of the internet doesn't even know what ?off IS let alone who Joel is, so good luck to you.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 7:31pm
Yep. The man did what he felt was best for him. We all have our opinions about him and his gang, which we'll carry with us, and he knows that. Maybe one day he'll wish he handled it differently, maybe not. But as for us, let's move on.

We've got a place of our own now, so no damaged done. Let the insult go TAW, it's not worth anthing other than humor.
Permalink Send private email BigJigger 
January 26th, 2006 7:32pm
you girls listen to BigJiggler here.


mmmmm....jigglage....
Permalink FullNameRequired 
January 26th, 2006 7:34pm
Yeah dude, what's your damage. Like, get over it already.

On to more important things - like that really phallic faucet.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 7:34pm
Phallic?  Good god, if yours is shaped like that you need medical help.
Permalink Send private email a cynic writes... 
January 26th, 2006 7:42pm
muppet,

"It's been 24 hours.  That's more than enough time to be Joel's bitch.  He did something.  We're all reacting to it.  How long are we going to continue reacting to Joel's stimulus? "

Remember - 1 day of muppet time is like 30 days of everyone else's time. We take longer, okay?
Permalink Blah 
January 26th, 2006 8:02pm
How long did the dancing bananas last and whole bitterness thing last? Oh, and remember when he stormed off in a huff for like 3 days and then came back as Mark Warner.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:04pm
I forget blah, that everyone but me is a half-developed crying baby unable to control or even get an occasional rein on their overpowering baby-like emotions.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:05pm
ROFL
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:05pm
We aren't the one's that smashed our own thumb.
Permalink Send private email Simon Lucy 
January 26th, 2006 8:06pm
The dancing bananas thing lasted HOURS and I was entirely over it in minutes while you all carried on and on for days as if they sky was falling.  Especially Simon.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:08pm
And if I can remind you:  when Philo reinstated me as moderator (which lasted a day or whatever) nobody actually gave a shit except Allan, so you couldn't even have been THAT upset over the bananas.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:09pm
I wasn't really that upset over the bananas, it was just fun watching you be a drama queen. Once Philo stuck you back in, I was just waiting for the show.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:10pm
I admit I was being a drama queen, but it was in response to countless drama queens crying about what a terrible fascist, biased moderator I was when I had deleted NOTHING AT ALL, EVER.

:-)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:12pm
Lets just hope no one ever lends you an Uzi and then calls you a fascist.
Permalink Send private email Simon Lucy 
January 26th, 2006 8:13pm
> NOTHING AT ALL, EVER.

What load of crap. There was one guy you completely modded out of existance.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:13pm
There was?
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:14pm
Yeah, you as much as admitted it too... I'd find a reference, but I have no clue where to look.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:15pm
Yes Simon, inserting dancing bananas in an HTML web page is EXACTLY like gunning people down in the street en masse.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:15pm
See.  Case proven m'lud a psychopath that sees no difference between a gratuitiously irritating image and massacring women and children.
Permalink Send private email Simon Lucy 
January 26th, 2006 8:16pm
Leave Simon alone, he has very sensitive eyes. For all you know it could have been like getting shot by Uzis. For all any of us know, he never fully recovered and completely lost his ability to see purple.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:16pm
Mark -

The only person I remember suggesting that we mod out of existance was ActivelyDisengaged, and then only after he had posted illegally-obtained personal information about me (my SSN) and had made implied threats against me and my family.

If there was anyone else, I don't recall, or I think you recall incorrectly.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:17pm
In fact Mark it almost seems as though you're trying to build a case against me should AA decide I might make a decent moderator, because I honestly have no idea what you're talking about if it's not AD.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:18pm
Yeah, I remember. You said you never deleted anyone, and I said what about so & so, you completely erased him, and you said something about him deserving it.

Maybe it was AD, but I don't think it was, I remember it being some random guy you were deleting for no reason.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:20pm
Why is it you take offense to everything I say lately?

I just got through telling Simon on IM that you should be mod...
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:21pm
Then I think your memory is DEFINITELY faulty because no such thing happened (modding a guy for no reason).  In fact I think you're either trolling me (to get some more drama queen action going) or you're deliberately lying for motives I can't fathom (unless you're trying to insure I'm not ever a mod here).

What's the deal, Mark?

It's totally not in my MO to rub out some dude's entire body of posts just for jollies.

What's the deal, Mark?
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:23pm
Seriously, is this some sort of weird revenge thing because I called you Joel's bitch?  You mentioned some stress-producing real life shit going on right now.  Are you having some sort of episode?  This is REALLY out of character for you.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:27pm
No, it wasn't just for jollies, you had your reasons, I just didn't understand them or know who the guy was. Maybe it was AD and I just didn't know. The point of the conversation (back then, and I guess now) was that you did delete someone.

And, uh, since I got you to admit it, I guess I've made my point.

In any case, as long as you don't go stickin Goatse on the forum, I don't see any reason you shouldn't be moderator. It should be very, uh, entertaining.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:27pm
Why am I upset?  Because you're spreading untruths about me.  Kinda what you were upset about earlier, eh?
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:27pm
I'm shocked at you Mark.  Shocked.

I am seriously appalled at your crap in this thread.  I know for a fact that you were much more informed (and even party to) the AD situation than you're letting on.

I don't get what your deal is.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:29pm
I was more upset that he wouldn't even respond to me when I asked him to change it. It's one thing to insult someone publicly, it's another not to let them defend themselves in the same venue.

I really do believe, though, that if we combed the archives, we'd find the thread where all this played out.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:30pm
The "moderate him out of existance" conversation was via email.  I'm sure I could dig it up in gmail if I had even the slightest motivation to sift through all the moderation emails (there are tons of them and the threads are LOOOONG), and it was about AD, and it was because of him posting my SSN and various threats, and you knew both who it was and why it was.

For you to claim you didn't know is either an intentional lie or a very very odd failure of your memory.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:32pm
Fight! Fight! KICK HIM!!!!
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 26th, 2006 8:33pm
Philo you were in on the AD emails, YOU straighten it out.  :P
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:34pm
*I* don't care.

I've got one thread defending my honor as a perv and another where sharky and dana are negotiating positions to take care of.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 26th, 2006 8:35pm
lol

seriously though Mark, I don't understand what's going on with you but I wonder whether you're way too stressed out and it's taking a serious toll.  You're beginning to scare me in the same way that Mat Hall was scaring me a month or so ago.  He seems to have gotten a handle on things (though with recent events, I hope he has), but you seem to have some issue.

and as condescending as that may sound it really isn't meant to be.  I'm really blown away by your accusation and subsequent pleas of ignorance about the situation.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:38pm
As just one of the microbes in the discarded Petri dish I think we should rejoice we have been asked to make our own way in the street (sniff).

I think the trigger was folks asking ontopic questions in ?off and traffic dropping in the main fora but what do I know about another buisnessmicrobe's thought processes ...?
Permalink trollop 
January 26th, 2006 8:40pm
Anyway maybe I overestimate how early you guys were privvy to AD's crap.  Obviously I was more intensely aware of the types of things he was posting than you three may have been, so it IS possibel that you weren't aware early on what AD was doing and why I was deleting him.

So maybe that's the source of the misunderstanding, but it is most certainly a misunderstanding.

I would LOATHE to be moderated out of existance and I would not and will not do it to anyone else.  It was necessary with one guy because what he was doing was illegal and even violent in a way.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:47pm
I never said you randomly or maliciously chose someone to delete, I said there was someone who I didn't recognize that you deleted consistently, and when I asked about it, you said you had a good reason.

For all I know it was AD and I just didn't know why that was significant at the time.

I'm not trying to ruin your reptuation. I apologize if you think I am, I'm more than willing to vouch that you were the most liberal moderator, and on the few occasions you did delete a post, it was for a good reason.

Heck, for all I know my memory is playing tricks on me, at this point I may have hallucinated the whole episode.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:49pm
Right. Crosspost.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:50pm
"I think the trigger was folks asking ontopic questions in ?off"

yeah, I suspect that was a part of it.  we were just a bad look for him all around.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
January 26th, 2006 8:51pm
Sorry for questioning your mental stability.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:51pm
muppet is so totally my bitch right now.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:56pm
LOL whatever.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 26th, 2006 8:57pm
Get me a beer bitch.
Permalink The Notorious T.A.W. 
January 26th, 2006 8:58pm
bring it back to me on your flat little head ...
Permalink Send private email PNII 
January 26th, 2006 9:15pm
What was the deal with AD?  I remember he seemed to follow you around being really single minded and vicious, Muppet, but what was that all about?  If you don't want to talk about it that's cool, I'm just rubbernecking really.
Permalink Cool Dad 
January 27th, 2006 4:09am
I love you guys.  Group hug!
Permalink Send private email Dana 
January 27th, 2006 8:52am

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