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Abstinence education

Some states are turning down millions in federal funds because they come attached with strings mandating abstinence education in the schools.

http://www.newsobserver.com/114/story/562241.html


>> "There are kids who don't want to know how to put on a condom, because they don't want to have sex," said Leslee Unruh, president and chief executive of the South Dakota-based National Abstinence Clearinghouse, the nation's largest network of abstinence educators. <<

Uh-huh.  Teenagers that don't want to have sex.  Riiiight.
Permalink xampl 
April 9th, 2007 2:24pm
>>"There are kids who don't want to know how to put on a condom, because they don't want to have sex,"

Any knowlege of condom operation creates an automatic and unavoidable psychological imperative to have sex IMMEDIATELY in the unwilling subject.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
April 9th, 2007 2:25pm
And the person saying that is the President of the Abstinence Clearing House.

Somehow, I don't trust his world-view.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 9th, 2007 2:28pm
>>"There are kids who don't want to know how to perform algebra, because they don't want to find the area under a curve"

Hey yeah man, lets teach the children what the WANT to learn. Lets teach them what the need to know NOW, not for the future.

That flies in the face of everything we do as educators.
Permalink arg! 
April 9th, 2007 2:44pm
And, having read the link, the "millions of dollars" they're turning down is only "millions of dollars" dedicated to preparing Abstinence Only classes.

Oh, and apparently the "millions of dollars" is 181 million dollars for ALL the states, (150 million for last year).

And the GAO has concluded "Abstinence Only" programs are not successful, anyway.

So the states aren't turning down money, they're turning down classes, teaching stuff that doesn't work.  Sounds like a good thing to me.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 9th, 2007 2:45pm
> they don't want to find the area under a curve

Once kids see some particularly fine curves, I bet they won't mind finding the associated aureoles.
Permalink Send private email strawberry snowflake 
April 9th, 2007 2:47pm
the thing that seems to so rarely be mentioned is how useful this knowledge is later, even within the context of marriage.  because not all married couples want or are ready for children, and just because I have been abstinent doesn't mean my partner would have been, and knowing about condoms and STDs and all is just generally a good idea, once you're of an age to understand it.
Permalink the great purple 
April 9th, 2007 2:58pm
What the hell is with all this condom instruction anyway? It's the most obvious thing in the world. Are there really people so stupid they can't figure it out? I guess if there are, it is in society's interests to prevent them from breeding.
Permalink Practical Economist 
April 9th, 2007 7:27pm
Well, PE, if there ARE people too stupid to figure condoms out, yet they have sex anyway, I don't think you're going to filter them from the gene pool.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 9th, 2007 7:46pm
There's more to it than "unwrap, wrap." Stuff like "don't use with petroleum based lubricants" and "it doesn't prevent all STDs" and other general sex ed tips.
Permalink Send private email Сергей РахманиноB 
April 9th, 2007 8:46pm
{chuckle}
In 10th grade sex-ed class (this was in backwards South Carolina, so we got taught late) the instructor held up a diaphram, and someone in the front row asked "Is it supposed to have a hole in it?"

So yes, you have to spell it out to some people.
Permalink xampl 
April 9th, 2007 9:17pm
Well I can see requiring instructions for a diaphram, but aren't those by prescription? If so, the doctor will explain it. An entire semester on how to use a condom, even if you do have to explain 'no oil lubes' and 'you can still get vd' seems excessive.
Permalink Practical Economist 
April 9th, 2007 10:10pm
Who said the entire semester was on the condom?

Hasn't any of you done sex-ed?  Shoot, you do the whole reproductive system, in dry, academic language.

Probably a single day is on putting condoms on bananas.  And if you don't know diaphragms exist, how you gonna ask your doctor for one?
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 9th, 2007 10:28pm

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