All right, I'm no expert, but...
When you remove asbestos, and you have warning signs posted all over that there is an EXTREME risk of lung disease, keep out, respirators and protective clothing needed, etc etc etc...
And then you seal the area with plastic tarp and duct tape, but leave a 6-inch gap near the ceiling because the light fixture makes taping inconvenient...
Aren't you pretty much exposing everyone on the floor to asbestos? Don't asbestos particles/fibres get airborne? Isn't a huge gap near the ceiling where there is NO plastic and NO seal a little worrisome?
April 10th, 2007 7:34am
Especially since the remaining portion of the hallway/floor remains open to employees and some of the public, since there's a hotel facility on this floor as well as our IS department.
Oh well, there's no immediate symptoms of exposure, so when I die of a horrible asbestos-specific lung ailment, that's when I'll find out.
April 10th, 2007 7:38am
Call OSHA, NOW. And refuse to work in that environment until they completely seal off the contaminated area.
It absolutely cracks me up that you work in a medical facility. Oh the irony.
April 10th, 2007 7:50am
Take pictures. Call OSHA. Then call a personal injury attorney. You can fake cancer, right?
and obviously, write an email to your employer to document that they were alerted :)
stick it to The Man.
April 10th, 2007 8:09am
I took a shitload of photos this morning.
April 10th, 2007 8:52am
Just hope it's the right type of asbestos.
April 10th, 2007 8:53am
muppet, if you die from asbestos exposure, can I have your family?
And your red stapler, too?
April 10th, 2007 9:06am
> Call OSHA, NOW.
Alternatively, speak to the workers, your boss, the building management, or the contracting company doing the work.
Running to washington might work eventually, but I would be surprised to learn that it was efficient.
April 10th, 2007 9:08am
sorry, I put the stapler in the jelly.
April 10th, 2007 9:09am
Also, if I call OSHA, they're totally gonna know it was me who called OSHA.
April 10th, 2007 9:12am
Why should that be a secret?
Locutus of Borg
April 10th, 2007 9:21am
While legally they can't punish me in any way, we all know that there are consequences for being a "whistleblower". I'm miserable enough here as it is...
...which may actually be a compelling reason TO call.
I'm leaving for a doc appointment in an hour. Maybe I'll call enroute.
April 10th, 2007 9:23am
you're probably overestimating how much you'd be seen as a "whistleblower". if you do it in a constructive way, without coming as being out to cause crap, what's the big deal? someone covers up the hole, forget about it.
April 10th, 2007 9:30am
"someone covers up the hole, forget about it."
Err.. no. They've been working since the middle of last week. If they've been using improper procedures all along, then the air could already be full of asbestos, and other areas could have been contaminated by footsteps or air currents. Covering up the hole isn't really a remedy at this point if contamination has already occured.
Forget about it yes, for 10-40 years until we turn up with mesothelioma.
April 10th, 2007 9:45am
I think it's the blue stuff that's the worst
April 10th, 2007 11:39am
If they have good lawyers, they'll get a warrant for the CoT database and link your IP to this thread.
Because the internet is not private.
"there are consequences for being a whistleblower"
Lifetime job security or you get to sue for a million bucks?
April 10th, 2007 1:56pm
Oh by the way, I once saw a study that showed that removing asbestos was like a million times more of a health hazard than just leaving it alone.
April 10th, 2007 1:58pm
if it's on teh internets it must be true!
[including every post on this page]
April 10th, 2007 2:47pm
Are they pulling out loose asbestos pipe lagging or fibro cement sheeting? There's a real difference in the amount of airbourne fibre generated.
If the former and you have been exposed to dust as a result of sloppy screening I'd say you would be entitled to complain loudly. If the latter and no discernable airbourne dust then IMHO you're overreacting. To make things simple for administrators and their administered ALL asbestos removal is treated as if it's death on contact.
Be aware that asbestos was (may still be up your way) a component of brake pads used on every road you have ever travelled so you're doomed anyway.
April 10th, 2007 8:24pm
exactly. It's a hazardous substance, and it's smart to take precautions, but the real chances of getting cancer or whatever at that level are probably quite remote.
Remember that the stuff was all over the place with noone giving a crap until about the 70's. If the risk was that high, about 3/4 of the over 60's population would be dying as a result.
April 11th, 2007 6:53am