Nobody likes to be called a dummy by a dummy.

America is a pyramid scheme

I think I believe that now.

Get in early, shank your neighbors, get them to believe so they shank THEIR neighbors, and run to the bank before they legislate against you or you can find a loophole with a slick lawyer or lobbyist.

Seriously. 

I am convinced.  This is the final nail in the coffin of my belief in my country.  It's gone, all gone.

So I'm gonna watch King of the Hill and Simpsons re-runs and forget all about everything.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 11th, 2007 10:49pm
What pushed you over the edge?

ps  Simpons?  from Rupert Murdoch's FOX network?
Permalink bogger 
April 11th, 2007 11:07pm
That's okay. There's lots of immigrants still to take advantage of.
Permalink blahty heartsheep 
April 11th, 2007 11:38pm
what's the cartoon saying rich people worked harder to get where they are than poor people?HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. Let the bond traders trade with the police for a month.
Permalink bogger 
April 11th, 2007 11:40pm
You deserve sharkfish, you deserve it.
Permalink Dan Denman 
April 11th, 2007 11:55pm
bogger, they do not work harder, they work smarter.

Think about it. Say we are both loggers.

You:: Purist? Decide to stick with the axe. 3 trees a day.

Me:: Opportunist? Get to working with a chain saw. 30 trees a day.

You work harder, but I make more money because I work smarter.

It is only when people realise that you are not rewarded for how hard you work, but for how much value you add, will they stop being envious of the rich, and get with the programme themselves.
Permalink Send private email Tapiwa 
April 12th, 2007 4:34am
You want to join the winners, Tapiwa.

Write a positive thinking self-help book.

Remember the world is divided into two. Those that get money from selling positive-thinking self-help books, and the poor losers that pay money to the former for reading their meaningless bilge.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
April 12th, 2007 7:02am
>>America is a pyramid scheme

Well duh. Just look at the one dollar bill.
Permalink Send private email Сергей РахманиноB 
April 12th, 2007 7:14am
Stephen, it's not about writing a self help book. It is about the libertarian in me.

Society needs to understand that society rewards results, not effort. That it takes someone 10 times as much work as I do to complete a task does not entitle them to 10 times the rewards. In fact, given that I can achieve more in less means *I* am entitled to more.
Permalink Send private email Tapiwa 
April 12th, 2007 8:53am
Personally I don't think 'shanking' your neighbors is the way to go. That is, if a job is about taking money from suckers, I'm disinclined to do it.

Yet, I think there is work where both you and your client are better off at the end of the transaction. Where they do their thing better than you can, you do your thing better then they can, and the combination is better than either of you trying to do the whole thing by yourselves. That's not a pyramid scheme.

Ie, the sandwich maker who buys bread from the baker, leaves both of them better off. (Very Adam Smithy, I know.)
Permalink Send private email strawberry snowflake 
April 12th, 2007 9:37am
"Yet, I think there is work where both you and your client are better off at the end of the transaction."

If we define the above as "honest work", I think that the basic problem is that there is so much money to be made in work that isn't honest.  IOW, there's more money in ripping people off than adding value to society.
Permalink the great purple 
April 12th, 2007 10:32am
> bogger, they do not work harder, they work smarter.

Actually Tapiwa, the cartoon, which I was talking about, says harder.

Why are the rich working smarter? because they can afford education.

Imagine we are both loggers.

Rich guy owns the forest.  Owns the chainsaws.  Rents chainsaws to poor people at ridiculous rates. 

It's not a race where poor and rich started out even and the rich ran smarter.  It's a race where the poor started  chained to the floor in the basement and the rich have owned everything for hundreds of years.
Permalink bogger 
April 12th, 2007 10:41am
So, Tapiwa, if you're working so much smarter, you're still one of us?
Permalink Lurk Machine 
April 12th, 2007 10:43am
Well, Sharky, if it IS a pyramid scheme, you're not on the bottom floor anymore.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 12th, 2007 10:43am
I mean, why are you still one of us.
Permalink Lurk Machine 
April 12th, 2007 10:43am
" IOW, there's more money in ripping people off than adding value to society."

Actually, there's more money in NOT ripping people off, but it takes a long view to believe that.

I recently heard on the radio from a guy who sold crystal meth.  He said, not getting paid wasn't a problem, because his customers quickly became regulars.  And if a regular didn't pay THIS time, he'd NEVER be able to buy from this dealer again.

Thus it wasn't to the customer's benefit to rip off the dealer.  On the other side, the dealer knows if he provides good product, he can continue to sell to that customer.  So the dealer has an incentive not to rip off his customers.

It's only in a "smash and grab" or "one shot deal" economy that ripping people off makes any sense at all.  But that's not the way you build loyalty, or networks of trust, or even a profitable society.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 12th, 2007 11:07am
"but for how much value you add"

HAHAHAHAH LMFAO *cough* bullshit *cough* *wheeze* LOL
Permalink JoC 
April 12th, 2007 11:20am
^^ Funny world, STH, where the drug dealers become more respectable than the likes of Tyco and Enron CEOs.
Permalink JoC 
April 12th, 2007 11:22am
Very true!  But for every Enron executive, I like to think there's a hundred worthwhile CEO's like GE, Honeywell, Ford, GM, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda, US Steel, etc.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 12th, 2007 11:28am
> Ford, GM, Mercedes

Bankrupt, Bankrupt, and trying to dump bankrupt parts.
Permalink bogger 
April 12th, 2007 11:39am
Yes, but unlike the CEO of Enron, they're not actively TRYING to rip people off.

And their bankrupt status goes more to the cost of oil and they're bad decisions regarding SUV's than it does corporate greed.

That, and the car companies declared bankruptcy in an attempt to off-load their pension responsibilities.  But that's another story.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 12th, 2007 11:56am
Bankrupting the company in a marketplace where Toyota can make billions while taking millions in salary hardly earns the title "worthwhile CEO."  More like worthless....
Permalink bogger 
April 12th, 2007 12:18pm
>>> Think about it. Say we are both loggers.
You:: Purist? Decide to stick with the axe. 3 trees a day.
Me:: Opportunist? Get to working with a chain saw. 30 trees a day.

30 a day?  What decade are you from?  You can do a lot more than 30 a day w/ one of these:

http://www.deere.com/en_US/cfd/forestry/deere_forestry/media/images/feller_bunchers/tracked/959J/959J_large_06_27_e.jpg
Permalink Send private email Ward 
April 12th, 2007 1:16pm
Heh, but you need a good deal of money at the outset, which means you better have gotten into a good tier of the pyramid to begin with, or ye be fucked.
Permalink JoC 
April 12th, 2007 6:09pm

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