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Barack the Magic Negro

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/50979/

(I am posting this because long ago, when I was drunk or something, I posted a diatribe about the handful of stereotypic but consistent roles for blacks in film. Magic Negro is one you see in The Matrix, almost any film with Morgan Freeman.)
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 24th, 2007 9:29pm
Oh, man, I'd vote for Morpheus.

Any man who can command one of those ships in the Matrix, and keep that band of Jackers in line, would make a great president.

I mean, just look at how great that speech he gave at the rave was.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 24th, 2007 9:33pm
LOL.  Club Zion.
Permalink xampl 
April 24th, 2007 10:13pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

way to take things out of context.
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 24th, 2007 11:38pm
Nice link tim but I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 24th, 2007 11:41pm
I mean--are you saying Limbaugh took things out of context?
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 24th, 2007 11:42pm
Limbaugh and Shanklin (the performer of the parody) are making fun of Sharpton and the LA Times reaction to Obama. They are more interested in the left's reactions to him and motivations for them than his race. It just happens that Sharpton has said that Obama is not black enough. Hence the "the LA Times called him that because he's not authentic like me." And just so you know, that video isn't a Limbaugh production. That may or not matter to you. I assume it's a Kos or Alternet production b/c I've never seen it before, and the magic negro song came out several weeks ago (not quite a month?).

Limbaugh also has audio clips of Sharpton protesting outside of Obama's HQ demanding a meeting (aka, wanting to be recognized as important) and ending up insulting "yo momma". It's making fun of Sharpton's unhappiness at being relegated to the "back" lines of this election when it comes to mentioning black people.
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 24th, 2007 11:52pm
So it is okay for Rush to act like an ass because Sharpton is acting like an ass?

Great logic there, tim.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 24th, 2007 11:55pm
Is it not ok to illustrate how Sharpton is being an ass? Illustrating absurdity is not the same as being absurd (if those around you realize you're merely illustrating it). Rush does this all the time. Whether or not you agree with it as a valid tactic, that's another matter.
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 25th, 2007 12:02am
"Rush does this all the time."

Yes, he does act like an ass all the time.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
April 25th, 2007 12:05am
That's a constructive argument how?
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 25th, 2007 12:07am
> That's a constructive argument how?

And how is that a constructive argument?
Permalink son of parnas 
April 25th, 2007 12:53am
I already provided my argument, I'm waiting for a response with thought and explanations/reasoning and not just hate/dislike.
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 25th, 2007 12:57am
The reason this isn't a story anywhere else is b/c Rush aired a parody of a LA Times story, not because he's racist or not racist.
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 25th, 2007 1:00am
I don't see anything offensive in the Limbaugh song. It's making a great criticism of the LA Times article, from where the term came from. I would say the song is essentially pro-Obama. It's criticizing Al Sharpton's attitude that Obama is not authentically black.
Permalink Practical Economist 
April 25th, 2007 1:07am
I would agree. If you think Limbaugh is anti-black, you should realize he's more anti-black coalition (aka Sharpton and Jackson) b/c he believes they're being used by the left, not truely respected, but given power as long as they "deliver the black vote."
Permalink Send private email tim 
April 25th, 2007 1:22am
Magic Negros are generally articulate.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
April 25th, 2007 2:32am
So a Magic Negro is like a really cool, really hip genie?
Permalink Full name 
April 25th, 2007 2:51am
It seems, from reading about this term on wiki, that when a competant and articulate black person appears in films or in fiction literature, he is called a 'magic negro' and the representation is considered offensive and evidence of racism.

If, instead, a black is shown as a criminal or incompetant, then that is considered a negative stereotype, offensive and evidence of racism.

If, instead, there are no blacks at all shown, then the lack of black characters is offensive and evidence of racism.
Permalink Practical Economist 
April 25th, 2007 3:37am
does it apply to women? I just got the number of an "articulate" and attractive black woman.
Permalink hello. 
April 25th, 2007 4:37am
I think PE wins this one.

If there is something really tragic, it's when a black person gets reduced to a stereotype no matter how he acts. But that's the media. Much easier to oversimplify than to deal with facts.
Permalink $-- 
April 25th, 2007 6:39am
Okay, not hip on that L.A. Times article for dissing Sidney Poitier.  I'm thinking that the author missed the whole point of the movie.  For those who weren't paying attention, it wasn't that black men want to get down with white women.  Poitier's character asked the question "Why must I be seen as a black man, instead of just a man?"  He took shit from both sides, especially from his own family.

Sounds like that's exactly what's going on with the author of the article.  Obama didn't grow up in the hood, he isn't a thug, he doesn't sound like poor uneducated trash when he talks, and he should be ashamed of himself for not living up to those stereotypes.

I think maybe the author is confusing niggers with black people.  It doesn't fit his racist world view for a black man to be well-spoken, educated and in a position of power.  Apparently that isn't something that black men can do in his world, and therefor Obama isn't a black man.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
April 25th, 2007 9:37am
Grr, the particular movie in question was "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?"  And a damned fine movie it was.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
April 25th, 2007 9:39am
>That's a constructive argument how?
Limbaugh is the guy who parroted the old nazi line about killing all the liberals, but leave 2 per zoo so that future generations would recognize them.

>I already provided my argument, I'm waiting for a response with thought and explanations/reasoning and not just hate/dislike.

Where? I dont' see one.
Permalink Peter 
April 25th, 2007 12:27pm
Yes, Limbaugh is a drug addicted hypocrite who panders to his half retarded audience for profit. But I don't think he's a racist, and I think the song brings up some valid issues worth discussing.
Permalink Practical Economist 
April 25th, 2007 3:25pm
Sharky, didn't you renounce your blackness over the "don't snitch" policy? When you did that, I'm assuming that left you with a null race, so shouldn't racial debate be beneath you now?
Permalink Send private email Philo 
April 27th, 2007 9:39am

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