They're certainly not in Congress...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Congressman_was_to_censure_Bush_over_0705.html

Gah. So this guy gets up in arms over use of a discretionary executive power and wants to waste everyone's time with a censure vote? Whee.

How about that the guy invaded a sovreign nation without justification?

How about ongoing felonies courtesy of FISA?

How about complicity in the US Attorney firings?

How about the signing statements?

How about violating the Geneva Convention with Guantanamo?

How about the rendition flights?

How about torturing prisoners?

How about getting habeas corpus back in place?

How about getting rid of the Military Commissions Act?

Christ - it takes waiving a 30-month sentence for something the Democrats have said isn't that important to get these people to get upset about ANYTHING. Massive violations of US law, international law, or the Constitution? Nah - we're still thinking about it. Commute the sentence of a guy who's probably taking the fall for the VP anyway? Hang the bastard!!!

I mean sure they got Capone on tax evasion, but still...

Pepsi and Coke - same shit different brand. You are literally fucked.

Here you go lad, here is a wand to make a pot of gold, any precious metal!
I will make a pot of silver.
Why not a pot of gold!?
It..it wouldn't be right to make a pot of gold (pardon).

Clinton could have pardoned a person in at least one famous and popular case.  At least Shwarzenegger gets that he can pull the switch or the pardon.

I can't believe anybody cares about this case.  How is someone supposed to protest without becoming known, at least enough to verify the veracity of the source.  Did whoever wrote the column need to publish names?

You're right. That reminds me - we still haven't censured Al Gore for claiming to invent the Internet. That's pretty high on your list of priorities isn't it?

The congress has definitely earned their low approval ratings.  They need to replace their leadership damned soon.  Pelosi can't do the job and there was never reason to believe that she could do the job.  The real question: is there anybody there who can?

Philo, I think you're looking at this through the wrong end of the telescope.

If the Democrats don't have enough control to get through a mere 'Censure' vote, how the hell are they going to do those larger things that need doing?

This Is A Democracy.  The Congress (which has been in power 7 whole months now) is a bare Democratic majority.  The Republicans are using their 'large minority' status to be the fox in the hen-house -- just as they used their 'bare majority' before to silence Democrat objections and rubber-stamp everything the President wanted to do.

If we had a Democrat President, then the Democratic Congress could rubber-stamp everything the President wanted, and we'd start unraveling this mess.  But we don't, yet.

It sounds like you assume the Democrats should gain Tyrant Power, and use that Power to correct all ills against all opposition.  Well, hell, that's how we got IN to Iraq in the first place!

The smart Democrats -- Nancy Pilosi being one -- are doing what they can do.  And they're doing it.  They PASSED the appropriations bill the Republicans sat on.  They PASSED the continuing appropriations bill for the war -- and tried to redress a lot of issues by doing that.

The Republicans are using their 'balance of powers' to prevent and slow progress on the very issues you're concerned about -- and you want to blame the Democrats for that?

I don't think that strategy is going to get you where you want to go.  Sure, reward the Republicans, the very people who've been rubber-stamping all those policies you object to.  After all, the Democrats are useless if they can't stop the Republicans, so let's reward the Republicans!

Yeah, very bad logic, reason, and policy behind that argument.

You gotta understand, the Democrats are the abused spouse. It takes a while to recover. Hold their feet to the fire, but give them a break at the same time.

I would imagine that the sad part about being a Democrat is that a Republican can declare a war every time (even if it was only a cold war, or a drug war in S. America, or other covert stuff), and the Dems are stuck siting on their hands.

I think we need to secure our border with Mexico.  I guess we are doing a so-so job of it already, at least their are some National Guard pitching in - don't know what the status of that effort is.

I think it would be interesting if a democrat or independent ran on the platform of punishment for the outgoing administration.

I think we'd love it. It would be like reality TV to the max!

Our political system is already too much like reality TV.  That's one of the PROBLEMS.