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Antisemitism >>>> racism

Just because you are relatively benign and kind comparing with others commiting antisemitism doesn't mean you are not racist.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 6th, 2007 12:41pm
I don't understand this sentence.
Permalink LeftWingPharisee 
July 6th, 2007 12:48pm
It isn't your comprehension that is broken.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 6th, 2007 12:56pm
Dan is a racist against Jews even though unlike other more serious offender he didn't call Jews pigs.

(as an example.)
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 6th, 2007 1:02pm
What he says is: Antisemitism =  racism

Btw, FYI "Semitic" isn't just related to Jew or Hebrew people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Permalink Send private email Masio 
July 6th, 2007 1:03pm
Anti-semitism is a form of racism. However, while the Semitic peoples include Arabs, etc., in popular usage it just means anti-Jewish people.

I don't really know a better word that's more precise.
Permalink LeftWingPharisee 
July 6th, 2007 1:17pm
Could you be antizionist without being antisemitic?

Israelis and palestinians alike are so ignorant and prejudiced that they can't simply live as neighbors and have a mixed community like almost all of the rest of humanity. I suppose they deserve one another.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 6th, 2007 2:36pm
"Could you be anti-zionist without being antisemitic?"

Yes, you can.

I can definitely understand the "pox on both houses" viewpoint of people not in the middle.
Permalink LeftWingPharisee 
July 6th, 2007 2:40pm
"have a mixed community like almost all of the rest of humanity."

Really?
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 6th, 2007 2:40pm
Yeah, I mean, we have jews, protestants, catholics, all sorts. We have pretty much every race, religion, and ethnic group imaginable and not much of any major ongoing conflict between them. At least, we aren't blowing our damned neighborhoods to hell every other week.

Sure, there are little conflicts and even some not-so-small ones here and there all over the world but nothing approaching the everyday hatred and violence to ones neighbors as what goes on over there.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 6th, 2007 2:44pm
After so many years of that crap and not having worked it out yet, I have to think people's genetics are materially flawed and that those people are dysfunctional and defective creatures. Maybe it's something in the water.

Neither has gotten what they wanted, nor made any real progress toward that end.

Neither has recognized that their methods are ultimately ineffective and only serve to exhaust and oppress themselves.

If efforts were ever focused in ANY direction other than hating/killing things could only ever be better. But that is consistently ignored.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 6th, 2007 2:52pm
Yeah, but we are not kicked out of our homeland for years, nor are we killed by millions just because some fact of ours we can't change.

If "the rest of humanity" are really nice, we wouldn't have the conflicts in former Yugoslavia, Somalia and Rwanda.

Or the thirty years war for that matters.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 6th, 2007 2:59pm
There are other conflicts, but there is nowhere on earth where blood has flowed more freely. It isn't just about conflict over the holy land though. That region of the world just seems fraught with barbarism. Even in the same ethnic and religious groups it would seem they kill each other much more often than any of the rest of us.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 6th, 2007 3:08pm
I don't know, between the Thirdy Years' War and World War II, we have about 300 years. How many people of the civilied world died in between?

So, I wouldn't be surprised if the conflict there would last for several hundred years.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 6th, 2007 3:15pm
first it was geography: as the bridge betwixt 3 continents for the out-Africa dispersal (Neanderthals were prolly crying that they were being displaced).

then it was ecology: the Fertile Crescent and domestication of the wheat.

then it was geography again: trade routes between India/China and western caliphate/Europe.

then it was geology: oil (except of course in Palestine).
Permalink Send private email strawdog 
July 6th, 2007 3:24pm
Rick, that's fascinating.

Explain this to us:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
Permalink trollop 
July 7th, 2007 2:11am
-----"There are other conflicts, but there is nowhere on earth where blood has flowed more freely."-------

That is such a farcicalstatement, it is not even worth asking for evidence.

Think of wherever you're living and then think of all the blood that has flowed there.

If it's less than in the Middle East over the last 2000 years then
a) people have been lucky
b) you've missed rather a lot of the bloodshed out.

My bets would be on b) in nearly every case.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
July 7th, 2007 5:26am
Rick lives in Canada.  He comes from China, but he lives in Canada.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 7th, 2007 12:34pm
> I don't really know a better word that's more precise.

Jew-hatred?

It became unfashionable in Germany in the late 1800s to hate people because of their religion, but it was still cool (scientific, even) to hate people of "inferior races."  The german word Judenhass (literally, Jew-hatred) started to become unpopular, so Wilhelm Marrih invented the term "antisemitic" in 1879 to take its place.
Permalink hello. 
July 7th, 2007 8:22pm
There is nothing I can add about the "taiping rebellion"

Other than the fact that the General who defeated the rebellion had the same last name as I do.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 8th, 2007 4:35pm
There's been more blood spilt in the US and Canada and China over the last 500 years than there has in the Middle East.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
July 9th, 2007 2:46am

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