Sanding our assholes with 150 grit. Slowly. Lovingly.

High time to buy air conditioner!!

EER 11 on this bad boy and it's at the right price.

http://www.amazon.com/Frigidaire-FAA055P7A-Conditioner-Electronic-Controls/dp/B0009T6ACO/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-6705818-4100029?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1184070499&sr=8-1

Anything else I should look at?
Permalink Michael B 
July 10th, 2007 8:29am
A nice window fan and some fucking balls.

I have no AC at home.  I put on a fan and deal with the fact that it's a little warm.  Air conditioning is one of the least green luxuries available.  It's an artifact of a pompous, selfish society.

Enjoy it.

I confess to using it in the car.  I keep talking about having it in the house but I'll never actually do it.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 8:34am
Note that's 5,200 BTU -- which will cool a 10x12 well-insulated room.

If your insulation is not that good, you CAN get an 11,000 BTU unit (still 115 Volt powered) to do that job.

Whatever you do, you better do it quick, before the summer rush is on.  More than it is already, that is.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 10th, 2007 8:35am
I slept fine with a few fans on last night.  It never got below 80.  It was 96 at the peak.

And I'm like, 80 pounds overweight (by my reckoning, not science's).
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 8:37am
That's ok, like Chuck Norris, muppet cools down a room with his farts -- he doesn't NEED an air conditioner.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 10th, 2007 8:39am
Never had one growing up, don't need one now.

And they're horrible for the environment, to boot.

You're a bunch of fucking pussies.  The planet sustains life just fine without our "help".
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 8:40am
Yup, a pussy, but a COMFORTABLE pussy.

Now, go sweat on the couch some more.

Oh, and not everybody lives in Canada or Connecticut.  Just a thought.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 10th, 2007 8:45am
Douchebag, it gets hot in Connecticut, too.  We also have winters that would make your cock drop off.

We live just fine on woodstove heat and fan cooling.  What's your excuse?

Like I said, it was 96 last night.  It was 100% humidity.  Cry me a river.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 8:47am
Oh, poor baby, it gets HOT in Connecticut, and you have really BAD winters too.  Oh, you suffer worst of everyone, poor baby.  But you just suck it up and keep going, yup, suffering and sucking it up, that's your life.

Not everybody chooses to live that way.  Some people actually live where it's 122 degrees sometimes.  Some people are actually aged 70 and 80, when heat exhaustion is much more likely.

I mean, gosh, there's a WHOLE LOT of the planet between you and the equator, but since this is all about Muppet, you go ahead and call everybody else a pussy, that makes baby feel better?

Sure, it would be better if everybody could just suck it up, or live in Connecticut, USA.  Since that's not the case, being abusive about it doesn't seem to achieve much to me.  Poor baby.  You just suck it up, then spew it out on everybody who doesn't agree with you 100%, because they're all pussies.  They're pussies, yes they are, but YOU'RE not, no YOU'RE not!

Hmm!  Now there's an idea.  Let's all set up a collection to buy Muppet an A/C, and a fund to allow him to afford to power it.  Maybe that will improve his mood.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 10th, 2007 8:57am
>Some people actually live where it's 122 degrees sometimes.

Sounds like they should live in a more hospitable location.  What kind of retard lives on Mars by choice?

Sorry Allan, not cutting it.  I'm not suffering.  I'm fine.  That's my whole point.  Air conditioning is a pompous, destructive luxury available only to the top 1% most wealthy in the world.  You're a pouf.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 9:01am
And sorry I hit a nerve, sweetheart.  If you're not a spoofer then you're about the angriest I think I've ever seen you on this forum.  Sounds like you feel seriously guilty about using A/C yourself.  Maybe because you know better.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 9:02am
>Sounds like they should live in a more hospitable location.  What kind of retard lives on Mars by choice?

I was thinking that it gets like that in Ras Tanura lots. Humid too because its on the gulf. Someone has to go work there so that lazy fuckers like you can have oil. Every house has at least 2 AC units running, oh, about 24/7 for about 10 months/year.
Permalink Peter 
July 10th, 2007 9:19am
I use as little oil as possible -- quite a feat in a society based almost solely on the stuff.  How about you?

Tell you what, Peter, let's swear off petrochemicals together.  Let's make our own soap and stop using computers.  We'll compare notes in a few years by carrier pigeon.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 9:23am
Woodstoves are serious polluters, aside from the fire hazard and sucking every single drop of moisture out of your house.

Plus, the smell annoys the shit out of me after the first 2 hours.
Permalink LeftWingPharisee 
July 10th, 2007 9:41am
Woodstoves aren't that bad at all if you stoke them up high enough.  Better than coal by a long shot.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 9:51am
Woodstoves are inefficient as hell. Try to use that to provide heat for a decent sized town and within no time the entire area will be turned into a empty wasteland as every tree will be cut down for fuel.
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
July 10th, 2007 10:04am
Use a pellet stove. 

Part of the problem is overpopulation.  The population isn't sustainable.  Whining and crying that reality is inconvenient isn't a compelling argument.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 10:06am
Wow, if the ability of providing enough fuel by forest regrowth is a benchmark for overpopulation, this world is in a lot of trouble.

Oh wait, it is.
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
July 10th, 2007 10:10am
Yep.  It is.

Granted, if we ever get solar power working quite right, we can up our standards a little.  Right now we have a few billion too many people around here.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 10th, 2007 10:12am
Well I'm sure there are solar powered ACs out there already ;)
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
July 10th, 2007 10:14am
Saying a wood stove would be less polluting than using coal or gas if it weren't for overpopulation, doesn't make any sense.
Permalink Send private email heartsheep 
July 10th, 2007 10:30am
I'm with Muppet in that people jump to putting on the air conditioner when it really isn't all that hot outside.

Here in Connecticut, we maybe have one or two weeks worth of really hot weather, but yet people turn on their AC in May as soon as the temperature goes above 75 degrees F, and leave it on until things cool down at the end of September.  This is really not necessary for most healthy people.

I have never owned an air conditioner.  Except for a couple of days a year, a fan is sufficient.

Part of the problem is that our housing is not designed to keep the heat out in the summer and the heat in in the winter.  If we had more climate-appropriate building materials, there would be less of a need for air conditioning.

In the car, though, I put on the AC when driving on the highway if it's too hot to leave the windows up without it.  It always seemed like driving fast with the windows open created a lot of drag which probably used up as much gas as the air conditioning would.  Not sure about that, though.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 10th, 2007 11:12am
Mythbusters did that one (twice). Can't remember the result.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 10th, 2007 11:29am
http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2004/11/mythbusters_boom_lift_catapult.html

search for "windows down vs. air conditioning"
Permalink the great purple 
July 10th, 2007 12:06pm
you can't remember the result because it was sort of inconclusive.
Permalink the great purple 
July 10th, 2007 12:10pm
obviously one does both: keep the AC off and the windows rolled up.

when one stops at a light (or even a bit before to help with the braking), one rolls down the window. then one rolls it back up when driving away.
Permalink Send private email heartsheep 
July 10th, 2007 12:11pm
Can the holier than thou shitidiots hold their righteous indignation until after someone answers the question?  Thanks.
Permalink Michael B 
July 10th, 2007 12:18pm
>> If we had more climate-appropriate building materials, there would be less of a need for air conditioning. <<

Once I convince the rest of the community to get on board we'll begin the capital development project post-haste.  Until then...
Permalink Michael B 
July 10th, 2007 12:22pm
michael, i think J&R or PC Richards have lots of A/C on sale. I think I saw 5000 btu units for $120.

I honestly don't know when the best time to buy is. In August no one's around and most people have bought an AC already so demand is low. But perhaps stores dont have many to sell either.
Permalink Send private email heartsheep 
July 10th, 2007 12:27pm
The one I pasted was unique in that it's the only A/C I can find for that application with an EER as high as 11.
Permalink Michael B 
July 10th, 2007 12:34pm
92 degrees here in upstate New York!

"Save me, Oprah Winfrey!"

"Save me, Tom Cruise!"

"Save me, Angelina Jolie!"
Permalink Sweatin' Like a MoFo! 
July 10th, 2007 4:02pm
-----"was thinking that it gets like that in Ras Tanura lots. Humid too because its on the gulf. Someone has to go work there so that lazy fuckers like you can have oil. Every house has at least 2 AC units running, oh, about 24/7 for about 10 months/year."-------

I live about fifty kilometers south of Ras Tanura, and until last year lived about fifty kilometers north. It's actually slightly hotter in Dubai which is further south.

You have the AC on about seven-and-a-half months a year. You have heating on for about two months, and there's about two-and-a-half months where you have neither. You'll have an 18,000 BTU unit in every room.

Now in Lanka where I spend four months a year I have no AC. That is because the maximum temperature is only about 85 F., and high ceilings and fans are quite sufficient.

I think if Michael B is in New York he will suffer from the adding heating you get from being in a city, the possible noise problem that would be caused if he kept the windows permanently open, and probable low-ceiling apartments.

The ecologically-aware way to use an AC is to make sure you have the thermostat set somewhere between 77 - 79 F (that's 25-26 C). What is really disgusting is to see these offices where the thermostat is set so low that people are wearing suits and ties to the office in Florida.

By the way Michael you need to calculate the BTUs needed according to the volume of the space you want to cool. This site
http://www.ajmadison.com/phpdocs/ajtest/a_c_buying_guide.php has a link to a calculator that will do that for you as well as other more useful information.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
July 11th, 2007 11:31am

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