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"I'll rebut on my weblog"

from this thread:

http://www.crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=20305&Posts=9


click to summon:

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000433.html




is there anything more cowardly? 

if you participate in a conversation on a webforum, surely politeness demands that you finish it there? 

if you want to do a follow up blog post, thats fine, but simply whisking your response away from a place where there can be a conversation and to a place where nothing is possible but a one way rant is not only rude, its cowardly.

its a shame, it was an interesting original article, but this guy just doesn't have a clue.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
July 10th, 2007 2:43pm
It's another white and green text on black background visual scheme. Enough said.
Permalink Send private email bon vivant 
July 10th, 2007 2:55pm
...seems to work for Michael Moore....
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 10th, 2007 3:04pm
>if you want to do a follow up blog post, thats fine, but simply whisking your response away from a place where there can be a conversation and to a place where nothing is possible but a one way rant is not only rude, its cowardly.

You have every option to criticize his opinions both here, and in the comments on his blog. You also have the ability to post your own blog posts criticizing him, which Technorati and its ilk will happily correlate with his.

I don't really see how it's cowardly. By posting on his blog he is taking complete and irrefutable ownership of his words.

The reality is that most bloggers quickly run out of things to talk about, so when someone inspires some passion on a discussion board, you might want to expand it out into a blog post.
Permalink DF 
July 10th, 2007 4:21pm
>> By posting on his blog he is taking complete and irrefutable ownership of his words. <<

As well as driving traffic there.

I personally get tired of the "I just wrote about this topic on my blog.  Come look." posts on JoS.  As far as I'm concerned, it's blog spam.

(blog spam == blam ??)
Permalink xampl 
July 10th, 2007 5:02pm
"I don't really see how it's cowardly. By posting on his blog he is taking complete and irrefutable ownership of his words. "

well, yes.  but he is also ensuring that two way communication cannot take place.

he is providing himself with space to pontificate on his own ideas without having to bother with all that tedious listening to other people.


"The reality is that most bloggers quickly run out of things to talk about, so when someone inspires some passion on a discussion board, you might want to expand it out into a blog post."

oh, I totally understand that.  my point is that discontinuing the discussion in favour of pontificating on your blog is both rude and cowardly.
I have no problem with creating a blog from an idea that arises on a discussion board...as you said, where else are ideas going to come from....but it is common courtesy to continue to communicate in a two way fashion with the people who brought the idea to your attention.

the thing is, he clearly isn't interested in communicating with me about the topic.  he wants to be lecturing me instead.

thats pretty dumb.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
July 10th, 2007 5:12pm
>As well as driving traffic there.

They're in the money now!

>I personally get tired of the "I just wrote about this topic on my blog.  Come look." posts on JoS.  As far as I'm concerned, it's blog spam.

Often it's a reasonable way to reply -- it is seldom appropriate to post gigantic dissertations midstream of a conversation. Not only will you get accused of hijacking the conversation, the temporal nature of discussion threads makes it a demotivating exercise.
Permalink DF 
July 10th, 2007 5:23pm
" it is seldom appropriate to post gigantic dissertations midstream of a conversation"

absolutely.  it is also inappropriate to stop a discussion on a dime and pontificate on the subject elsewhere.

what is appropriate is to continue the discussion, and do your blog pos tat the same time.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
July 10th, 2007 5:26pm
Had it been a CoT regular, the response might have been different.  But who the eff is this Jason guy anyway?  He drops in out of nowhere, makes a post or two, and buggers off to his blog.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 10th, 2007 5:27pm
>?he thing is, he clearly isn't interested in communicating with me about the topic.

You clicked to summon him, and he blogged to summon you.

I'm just not seeing what the big difference is.

Ultimately you're presenting the idea that a blog entry is a one way conversation, but it isn't. While I'm repeating, you have every ability to post blog rebuttals -- you can do it in your own "house", with no one else controlling what you have to say.
Permalink DF 
July 10th, 2007 5:27pm
I dont want to rebut him.  its an interesting topic.  I want to have a conversation with him.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
July 10th, 2007 5:34pm
And he wants to have an interesting conversation with you... on his blog.  It's no more unreasonable of him to want it on his terms than you to want it on yours.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
July 10th, 2007 5:56pm
except that on his terms I dont get to participate in the discussion.

there is no similarity between a blog post and a two way conversation.
Permalink Send private email zestyZucchini 
July 10th, 2007 6:10pm
"(blog spam == blam ??)"

splog
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July 10th, 2007 11:19pm

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