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Let's Ban Torture

Democrats have control of Congress. Can they pass any laws at all that benefit the people? They have already told us they will not impeach Bush or Cheney, despite their crimes against humanity and against the people of the united states.

Could we pass a law prohibiting people from inflicting pain to gain information or force compliance?

I'd like to see prison guards, police electrocuting people in libraries, etc all held accountable for their human rights crimes.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 14th, 2007 3:54pm
republicans blocked timeline for iraq withdrawl. senate rules  mean we need 60+ dems to right the country.
Permalink Send private email Gecko 
July 14th, 2007 4:02pm
That's just making excuses and it's bullshit. "Oh, there is no point in  trying, it is all impossible so we will do nothing." Fine, then vote the cowardly dems out of there if they don't want to do what they were elected to do. Shoot the fuckers dead.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 14th, 2007 4:51pm
You assholes make this bullshit argument.

If there is a majority of ONE republican, you can't do jack shit because there are too many republicans.

If there is a majority of 59 democrats, you can't do jack shit because there are too many republicans.

It's all bullishit. You think these cowardly tit sucking democrats would do anything to stop torture and abuse of power if they had UNANIMOUS control, if they had every last fucking congressional seat?

NO! Because then you would say "We can't do anything because the president is a moderate. We can't do anything because there are two republicans on the supreme court. We can't do anything because there are red states." Blah blah blah. I'm so fucking tired of your bullshit, your whining and your fucking excuses for why you have to sit on your asses all day doing nothing, while drawing OBSCENE salaries and perks from the taxpayers.

IT IS TIME FOR A FUCKING VIOLENT REVOLUTION.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 14th, 2007 4:55pm
it's fact of the senate rules.  don't shout at me, blame philo
Permalink U 
July 14th, 2007 5:09pm
Idiot. By your same reasoning, the Republicans couldn't do anything during their less than 60 majority. But that wasn't the case was it? So just CUT IT OUT WITH THE EXCUSES.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 14th, 2007 5:23pm
they didn't. no social security reform, all budgets barely passed.  social security d passed through fraud.  war authorization fraud.  no other major legislative accomplishments in the pass 8 years.
Permalink idito 
July 14th, 2007 5:50pm
Sorry, my mistake, I had not realized that no bills were passed during the last 15 yrs.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 14th, 2007 6:03pm
+ patriot act.
Permalink idito 
July 14th, 2007 6:11pm
Clearly, PE, you don't understand US Democracy, if you so easily advocate violent revolution.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 14th, 2007 8:17pm
Isn't keeping the option of violent revolution open the reason why you have the 2nd amendment?
Permalink Send private email Colm 
July 14th, 2007 8:22pm
A population should not have to fear its government.
Permalink Aaron 
July 14th, 2007 8:43pm
A sane American population doesn't really have a reason to fear it's Government -- that's why we vote, that's why we have balance of powers, that's why we have a constitution.

Now, the nutters, they may have any delusions leading to fear they want to.  That doesn't mean I have to validate those delusions.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 14th, 2007 9:03pm
Besides, the OP began with "Let's Ban Torture", and then went to "Violent Insurrection".  I find those two concepts contradictory, myself.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 14th, 2007 9:04pm
"Could we pass a law prohibiting people from inflicting pain to gain information or force compliance?"

You do realise that this is already illegal under international law, don't you?
Permalink Send private email Paul Brown 
July 14th, 2007 9:07pm
Under US law too.
Permalink Send private email Colm 
July 14th, 2007 9:09pm
Hubble, a sane US population has every reason to fear its government if it is showing every sign of completely disregarding the Constitution that is supposed to guarantee everything you just stated as reasons not to fear it.
Permalink Aaron 
July 14th, 2007 9:22pm

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