Let's Ban Torture
Democrats have control of Congress. Can they pass any laws at all that benefit the people? They have already told us they will not impeach Bush or Cheney, despite their crimes against humanity and against the people of the united states.
Could we pass a law prohibiting people from inflicting pain to gain information or force compliance?
I'd like to see prison guards, police electrocuting people in libraries, etc all held accountable for their human rights crimes.
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 3:54pm
republicans blocked timeline for iraq withdrawl. senate rules mean we need 60+ dems to right the country.
Gecko
July 14th, 2007 4:02pm
That's just making excuses and it's bullshit. "Oh, there is no point in trying, it is all impossible so we will do nothing." Fine, then vote the cowardly dems out of there if they don't want to do what they were elected to do. Shoot the fuckers dead.
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 4:51pm
You assholes make this bullshit argument.
If there is a majority of ONE republican, you can't do jack shit because there are too many republicans.
If there is a majority of 59 democrats, you can't do jack shit because there are too many republicans.
It's all bullishit. You think these cowardly tit sucking democrats would do anything to stop torture and abuse of power if they had UNANIMOUS control, if they had every last fucking congressional seat?
NO! Because then you would say "We can't do anything because the president is a moderate. We can't do anything because there are two republicans on the supreme court. We can't do anything because there are red states." Blah blah blah. I'm so fucking tired of your bullshit, your whining and your fucking excuses for why you have to sit on your asses all day doing nothing, while drawing OBSCENE salaries and perks from the taxpayers.
IT IS TIME FOR A FUCKING VIOLENT REVOLUTION.
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 4:55pm
it's fact of the senate rules. don't shout at me, blame philo
U
July 14th, 2007 5:09pm
Idiot. By your same reasoning, the Republicans couldn't do anything during their less than 60 majority. But that wasn't the case was it? So just CUT IT OUT WITH THE EXCUSES.
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 5:23pm
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 5:27pm
they didn't. no social security reform, all budgets barely passed. social security d passed through fraud. war authorization fraud. no other major legislative accomplishments in the pass 8 years.
idito
July 14th, 2007 5:50pm
Sorry, my mistake, I had not realized that no bills were passed during the last 15 yrs.
Practical Economist
July 14th, 2007 6:03pm
+ patriot act.
idito
July 14th, 2007 6:11pm
Clearly, PE, you don't understand US Democracy, if you so easily advocate violent revolution.
SaveTheHubble
July 14th, 2007 8:17pm
Isn't keeping the option of violent revolution open the reason why you have the 2nd amendment?
Colm
July 14th, 2007 8:22pm
A population should not have to fear its government.
Aaron
July 14th, 2007 8:43pm
A sane American population doesn't really have a reason to fear it's Government -- that's why we vote, that's why we have balance of powers, that's why we have a constitution.
Now, the nutters, they may have any delusions leading to fear they want to. That doesn't mean I have to validate those delusions.
SaveTheHubble
July 14th, 2007 9:03pm
Besides, the OP began with "Let's Ban Torture", and then went to "Violent Insurrection". I find those two concepts contradictory, myself.
SaveTheHubble
July 14th, 2007 9:04pm
"Could we pass a law prohibiting people from inflicting pain to gain information or force compliance?"
You do realise that this is already illegal under international law, don't you?
Paul Brown
July 14th, 2007 9:07pm
Under US law too.
Colm
July 14th, 2007 9:09pm
Hubble, a sane US population has every reason to fear its government if it is showing every sign of completely disregarding the Constitution that is supposed to guarantee everything you just stated as reasons not to fear it.
Aaron
July 14th, 2007 9:22pm