Do you debate politics at all, face to face?
Ever? I met this us attorney worker, a lawyer who isnt political. Thought I would chat it up, but he doesn't do politics. What sense does that make.
a lawyer who isn't political is a lawyer who knows you would not agree with him about politics?
I do discuss politics quite a bit in public. I can be an embarrassing dinner date since if I feel people at an adjacent table could benefit from it, I will give a speech to my companion about some topic that I think the random strangers should hear.
Half the time you're very smart. The other half of the time you're wildly misguided, and probably even more annoying to the people around you. I do sometimes wonder why you're so polarized.
Not with someone who I know will disagree. There's really nothing good that will come of it except hard feelings.
What's the point of debating politics with someone who you know is going to agree with you? What do you get out of it, besides validation?
>Not with someone who I know will disagree. There's really
>nothing good that will come of it except hard feelings.
So you wouldn't actually change your mind about anything then?
The middle ground is desirable. Someone you neither know will agree nor you know will disagree.
I figure intelligent people is best, irrespective of their likelihood to agree or disagree.
I find those the most likely to fall into that desirable middle ground.
Ah, but so will stupid people. Need to separate the wheat from the f**king retarded.
A quick debate should reveal whether or not they're worth debating, then.
I guess this is what happens (good real, right vs left):
>I guess this is what happens (good real, right vs left):
Jeez. That video made me cringe.
Sometimes, I love you, PE. I enjoy people who openly make fools of themselves. There's nothing worse than people who take themselves too seriously.
I just wouldn't take you to a company dinner.
July 14th, 2007 9:39pm
The pro-Iraq War man in that video IS the people I work with, generally, but without that accent.
Sad, really. If I say, Okay, you go to Iraq--they get quiet and they don't talk to me the rest of the day.
Better to just avoid the whole thing.
July 14th, 2007 9:41pm
"The pro-Iraq War man in that video IS the people I work with, generally, but without that accent. "
I work with them, with the accent.
I used to be a regular on the leading anti Michael Moore website, and the people there argued like that. What came out of their mouth was basically a diatribe of regurgitated talking points.
The most interesting thing I discovered was that they managed to maintain their fictional outlook without cognitive dissonance by ignoring the world in general, and just focusing on the minor idiocies of the "Democraps". Much like Philo and his "Al Gore invented the Internet" rant ;)
"The most interesting thing I discovered was that they managed to maintain their fictional outlook without cognitive dissonance by ignoring the world in general, and just focusing on the minor idiocies of"
It was kind of interesting. One guy asked about 20 something percent support Bush or the war. He didn't have a comment for that. If you are in the 20% club, and can't see the evidence of the failed situation over there in the last couple of years; your argument goes out the window.
To answer his question. If we do leave right now. Civil war could potentially wage between the three factions over there. I dont think Al-Qaeda has the power to rule over the entire country and the Iraqi police have a chance for ending unrest over time. It won't be pretty but at this point, the American military should occupy the nation. Will Al-Qaeda reach the US if we leave now. Probably not.
On the other side, I don't know what Sheehan's motive is now. If it is to speak for the side of the ending the war and get troops home, she has a place to do so. If it is to just constantly fight with Bush and Pelosi, I think she should just save her energy.
"It won't be pretty but at this point, the American military should occupy the nation."
Philo is pretty much the poster boy for the fooled by the republicans dumb middle class white guy.
"Philo is pretty much the poster boy for the fooled by the republicans dumb middle class white guy."
Hold on here. Complete slander on Philo. I dont know if he is republican, democrat or neither but he has been against the Bush administration in various posts.
bot that's because you're an idiot. He's one of those exurb living republicans that consider themselves independents that were targeted by rove in 2000. He bought it hook line and sinker. A change from the peace & prosperity of the clinton years. Global warming is a lie. Gore is a wacko. We need a president I'd like to have a beer with , who cares if he's a coward who doesn't read. I'm a coward who doesn't read.
It's not a lie just because you haven't been following and don't know the record. Did you know he's not black either?
and he watches a LOT of TV.
July 14th, 2007 10:02pm
>To answer his question. If we do leave right now. Civil
>war could potentially wage between the three factions
POTENTIALLY wage? WTF do you think they're having over there, a tea party?
>I dont think Al-Qaeda has the power to rule over the >entire country
Al-Qaeda doesn't really have much of a presence there. Most of the insurgency is home grown. Civil war would continue, but without US troops in the mix, it would probably stabilize a bit. Iraqis know this.
>and the Iraqi police have a chance for ending unrest over
While they are still seen as dependent upon the US this is unlikely. I doubt Iraq has the capability to reunite into a functioning state, let alone a democracy.
>It won't be pretty but at this point, the American
>military should occupy the nation.
Why? If the Iraqi people are saying they want them out, they are probably saying this because they'd PERSONALLY be safer.
>Will Al-Qaeda reach the US if we leave now. Probably not.
Total red herring. Al Qaeda doesn't even figure in to the mix any more. Its aim was to provoke the US into a long drawn out war in Iraq and hemorrhage the US economy. Mission accomplished in 2003.
>Hold on here. Complete slander on Philo. I dont know if
>he is republican, democrat or neither but he has been
>against the Bush administration in various posts.
Yes, but he has admitted to being fooled by them. He did, after all, vote for them in 2000.
He also single handedly brought about more abuses to the CoT/off message forum than Dan Denman. Yale Chick, "I'm Black," The Apprentice recap and analysis, "consider Sharepoint" every other post, etc.