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Here comes the Rails bashing

Straight from reddit and then Joel on Software.

http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.309321.4
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 17th, 2007 5:23pm
February 15, 2006
Permalink Aaron 
July 17th, 2007 5:27pm
damn it
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 17th, 2007 5:27pm
And please, once you go beyond the scaffolding it's not any better. Trying making that active record do anything interesting and you'll run back to hibernate.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 17th, 2007 5:28pm
Further, in his "IT TAKES THE RELATIONAL OUT OF RELATIONAL DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM" bit, he seems to be confused over terminology.  The 'relations' in relational databases are between columns in a row.  So no, AR does not take the 'relational' out of the picture.
Permalink star wars kid 
July 17th, 2007 5:40pm
I didnt read over it that much.  But I dont know if rails has good support for complex relations or does it?
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 17th, 2007 5:42pm
Meh, it's ok.  Doesn't touch Hibernate, iBatis, or SQLAlchemy in robustness... but it's ok.
Permalink star wars kid 
July 17th, 2007 5:45pm
How complex do you mean?
Permalink Aaron 
July 17th, 2007 5:46pm
Relational object mappers seem like a great idea until you enable query logging on the RDBMS.

*shudder*
Permalink Michael B 
July 17th, 2007 7:02pm
I tried it, it did seem very brittle.
Permalink LeftWingPharisee 
July 18th, 2007 9:55am

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