Crazy On Tap - Here comes the Rails bashing

Here comes the Rails bashing

Straight from reddit and then Joel on Software.

http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.309321.4

Bot Berlin
July 17th, 2007 5:23pm

February 15, 2006

Aaron
July 17th, 2007 5:27pm

damn it

Bot Berlin
July 17th, 2007 5:27pm

And please, once you go beyond the scaffolding it's not any better. Trying making that active record do anything interesting and you'll run back to hibernate.

son of parnas
July 17th, 2007 5:28pm

Further, in his "IT TAKES THE RELATIONAL OUT OF RELATIONAL DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM" bit, he seems to be confused over terminology. The 'relations' in relational databases are between columns in a row. So no, AR does not take the 'relational' out of the picture.

star wars kid
July 17th, 2007 5:40pm

I didnt read over it that much. But I dont know if rails has good support for complex relations or does it?

Bot Berlin
July 17th, 2007 5:42pm

Meh, it's ok. Doesn't touch Hibernate, iBatis, or SQLAlchemy in robustness... but it's ok.

star wars kid
July 17th, 2007 5:45pm

How complex do you mean?

Aaron
July 17th, 2007 5:46pm

Relational object mappers seem like a great idea until you enable query logging on the RDBMS.

*shudder*

Michael B
July 17th, 2007 7:02pm

I tried it, it did seem very brittle.

LeftWingPharisee
July 18th, 2007 9:55am

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