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3 Days to Book #7

Only three more days to the last Harry Potter book.  Sadly, I'll be going away for the weekend, so I probably won't get it until Monday.

Is anybody else looking forward to this?
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 18th, 2007 9:59am
Do you mean "will you be driving 45 minutes to the nearest bookstore that has it to pick up two copies for your family at midnight Friday"?
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 18th, 2007 10:02am
I'm SO excited!  My son and I have been counting down for months.

Read some spoilers on Reddit yesterday.  I really hope they're all wrong.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 18th, 2007 10:08am
I tried to take my gf to see the latest movie last night. She's into it... me, not so much. But the parking lot was really full and she decided she wanted to come back another time when it wasn't so busy.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 18th, 2007 10:09am
The big question:  will the library get enough copies of the book on tape that we will get ours by August 10 (weekend of a roadtrip)?  I think we're 542 in line... :)
Permalink the great purple 
July 18th, 2007 10:11am
I've ordered on Amazon. But as it is international shipping (and I didn't preorder soon enough) it will arrive by mid august =(

I already have the PDF which can be found on mininova, but i think I can wait until i get the book.


BTW, also tomorrow is my birthday =P
Permalink Send private email Masio 
July 18th, 2007 10:16am
Happy Birthday... because I'll forget tomorrow.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 18th, 2007 10:19am
_________ dies. Sorry to 'spoil' it for you.
Permalink Practical Economtst 
July 18th, 2007 10:41am
Preordered, just waiting.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 18th, 2007 10:49am
I guess I'm the only one who couldn't care less.

I'm reading Shadowmarch Volume 2.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 18th, 2007 10:50am
People who read and enjoy Harry Potter books are retards.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
July 18th, 2007 10:57am
Why is enjoying a well written book retarded?

You may not personally like them, but there's no need to disparage those who do.  There are certainly zillions of books out there a whole lot worse than Harry Potter.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 18th, 2007 11:00am
I never read one. Not enough interest. That, and I have the impression that it would be fluffy and soft. I like dark and hard.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 18th, 2007 11:02am
DON'T BE AN ADULT WOMAN AND READ A FUCKING CHILD'S BOOK IN MY CAR GET THE FUCK OUT!!
Permalink Michael B 
July 18th, 2007 11:02am
I was just teasing. 

I didn't know Harry Potter until I was on a plane, in 2000? to San Francisco.  The handsome, muscular man sitting next to me was reading the first one so I asked him about it.

I tried reading it, but the British twirlies get me.  Something about British phrasing that forces me to read the book in a British accent and it wears me down.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
July 18th, 2007 11:02am
They're not at all fluffy and soft.  There's plenty of pain and suffering, both emotional and physical.

Give them a try.  The first book starts out like a children's book, but rapidly matures in outlook, so hang in there.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 18th, 2007 11:03am
It hasn't been light and fluffy since the third book.  Order of the Phoenix was certainly anything but light and fluffy, and The Halfblood Prince (a boring title that I actually had to look up, even though the book itself is quite good) is downright dark and scary.

Rowling isn't afraid to kill off characters that we like.  There's been a body per book since #4 I think.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
July 18th, 2007 11:18am
And BTW yes, I'm hugely looking forward to this.  The kids are completely bored by Harry Potter.  But the wife and I had to go see the movie this weekend, and she's racing to finish her current book so that she will be ready on the 21st.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
July 18th, 2007 11:20am
I'll probably read it soon, but I have to wait til mid-September before Amazon has the boxed set of all 7.  I won't buy it til then.
Permalink Aaron 
July 18th, 2007 11:28am
> Rowling isn't afraid to kill off characters that we like.

Like 'Sopranos' or 'Lost' there's a suspicion that wondering who gets bumped off next is half the appeal. I guess it's a reverse who-done-it, a 'who-will-be-done-in' it.
Permalink Send private email strawdog sobriquet 
July 18th, 2007 11:45am
Although I have to say that Shadowmarch Volume 1, while well written, ultimately sucked because the ending is a big fat unpredictable dues ex machina bullshit moment that couldn't have been predicted, and the core plot for that volume is a MURDER MYSTERY HELLO!

But then, Tad Williams is BIG on dues ex machina bullshit.  Otherworld ends with one, too.  And that's 5,000 pages of reading invested before you find that out.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 18th, 2007 11:53am
Which is why Rowling's approach is so satisfying.  Every book ends with the end of a school-year in Harry's life.  Everybook has a satisfying plot of its own (some scheme of the bad guy that must be thwarted -- different scheme's each time) which IS thwarted, more or less, by Harry and his friends.

Yet each book adds a bit to the reader's knowledge of the world, of the bad guy, of Harry himself as he grows up.

Personally, I really don't like "fantasy series" books, where the author keeps publishing book after book, but never really answering ANY of the questions they raise.  And the series just goes on and on and on...  I think Zelazney started it, with the Amber series.

Rowling has avoided this trap, by stateing very early on there would be 7 Harry Potter books, and by having each book be quite a satisfying story on its own.

So, if YOU want to make a few billion dollars with your stories, this is not a bad model to follow.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 18th, 2007 12:15pm
*OtherLAND
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 18th, 2007 12:33pm
Zelazny may have started it, but Piers Anthony really did it to death with Xanth.  I liked the first few of that series, but it really became putrid near the end.  Gave up.
Permalink Aaron 
July 18th, 2007 12:55pm
Moorcock did it to death, but I don't think he got rich at it.

Saberhagen (who just died a few days ago, if you missed it) did it with the Berserker books, then the Swords books.
Permalink Ward 
July 18th, 2007 2:59pm
Having talked to several SF authors, apparently it got VERY popular with the publishers.

You see, if a publisher could get an SF or Fantasy author to 'create a world', then write a series of books about that world, that was almost guaranteed sales for the publisher.  Anybody who bought "Book One" was very likely to buy "Book Two".  I don't think they've yet figured out that if "Book Two" was crap, "Book Four" was unlikely to sell -- but that's how this whole syndrome started.

It was convenient for the authors, too, but the big driver came from the publishers.

Sadly, this spawned multiple 'series', and gave the author less and less motivation to actually 'finish' anything -- just drag plots out to two, three, or more 'books' worth of text.  Which I find intensely annoying.

Now, Ms. Rowling insisting at the beginning there would be ONLY seven books of Harry Potter has been a breath of fresh air.  And her tendency to finish things in each book has also been wonderful.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 18th, 2007 3:11pm
I actually really like it when multiple stories are set in the same world.  But I do want books (or at least trilogies) to be sort of self-contained, with stories that actually end.  It's the reason I gave up on The Wheel of Time.  But I love the Valdemar books by Mercedes Lackey.
Permalink the great purple 
July 18th, 2007 3:15pm
<Nods> -- yes, it doesn't HAVE to be bad.  The Pern "Dragon Riders" novels by McCaffrey were excellent (up to the White Dragon, after that I quit caring).  Modesitt is doing some nice stuff.  The O'Brian series on Aubrey and Maturin is excellent -- though he's died now.

It's just after 6 or 7 books, it seems like some authors just 'phone in' additional stories for the paycheck.  I don't begrudge the paycheck, it's the poor quality of the stories I mind.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 18th, 2007 3:20pm
>> It's just after 6 or 7 books, it seems like some authors just 'phone in' additional stories for the paycheck. <<

{cough-cough} Wheel of Time {cough-cough}

I gave up caring around book 4 when it because obvious that Robert Jordan suffered from Story-Incompletus syndrome. 
I think he's up to 9 or 10...
Permalink xampl 
July 18th, 2007 3:26pm
Motherfucker, is Wheel of Time still going?

I started reading (and gave up on) that series like 10 years ago.
Permalink Michael B 
July 18th, 2007 3:39pm
I got less than halfway through the first one of that series.  It was like reading the damn Silmarillion.

Some authors can pull it off.  Stephen Brust's Vlad Taltos books are unfailingly good, but then again I think he's an excellent author all around.
Permalink Aaron 
July 18th, 2007 4:05pm
Yeah, I got suckered into a copy of the Silmarillion too.  Man, what was Chris Tolkien thinking?  That the incomplete notes used to flesh out a backstory would be compelling reading?  I mean, come on!
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 18th, 2007 4:24pm
Actually I liked the Wheel of Time up to about book 6.  Then it started getting tedious.  Then there were too many main characters to keep track of.  Then I gave up.  I get executive summaries from my husband, and that's about all I care about.
Permalink the great purple 
July 18th, 2007 5:11pm
Yep, it's book 6 where WoT starts to fall down.  2 is the best of the lot and it's a shame he didn't have more like that in him.

He's dying of a blood disorder or something now, and probably won't finish the series.

I don't see how WoT compares to the Silmarillion, though.  It's not nearly as dry as that.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
July 19th, 2007 8:49am

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