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TSA

Security officers have been collecting some 22,000 lighters a day nationwide, slowing down lines at check points. Even so, many smokers had found ways to sneak lighters through checkpoints, often by placing more than one in a carry-on bag. Disposing of the seized lighters has cost about $4 million a year.
Permalink nytimes 
July 20th, 2007 6:37am
they should just wheel the lighter discard bin over to the "arrivals" section, or near baggage claim where arriving passengers will congrerate, and I think this problem will solve itself.

Why do I feel like such a freaking genious all the sudden.
Permalink Send private email arg! 
July 20th, 2007 6:55am
Despite getting the spelling of genius wrong, that would seem to be the most sensible option.

Of course, someone would then point out the security hazard of having that much flammable lighter fuel in one place.
Permalink Send private email Tapiwa 
July 20th, 2007 7:55am
you would never get a stockpile because people will take a free lighter more often than they will forget and take one on a plane in their carryon.

And a genious is kind of like a genius, only smarter.
Permalink Send private email arg! 
July 20th, 2007 8:03am
Several people have pointed out the silliness in taking away fluids that (in theory) they suspect to be hazardous or unstable and throwing them all in teh same bin.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 20th, 2007 8:20am
Doesn't TSA stand for The Silly Agency?  Because seriously, most of what they've done is pretty silly.
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July 20th, 2007 8:31am
I got a warning yesterday because I was using a gallon bag for my fluids and gels, while the rules clearly state it should be a quart bag.

I feel SO MUCH SAFER now.

I've actually got a letter written to the head of the TSA asking if it's time to stop the liquids ban, since there are several articles on how the "binary liquid" plan was impossible, and the original plot was just talk. I'd send it, but I can't afford to end up on the no-fly list.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 20th, 2007 8:53am
They shouldn't give away the lighters -- they should sell them.

The half-used water bottles, those they should give away.
Permalink xampl 
July 20th, 2007 9:03am
arg!'s plan is pretty fucking smart. Arg is a genius.

Seriously, that's a good plan. Spending $4 million to dispose of the harmless lighters they've stolen is typical idiocy from them.

"New Dealism -- (FDR Version) If you have 2 cows, you shoot one, milk the other one; then pour the milk down the drain."

"Bureaucracy -- You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows."
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 20th, 2007 12:53pm
"I'd send it, but I can't afford to end up on the no-fly list."

It's interesting to me that you are aware that this is what will happen (it will), but sometimes I get the impression that you are not convinced we live in a fascist police state.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 20th, 2007 12:55pm
"sometimes I get the impression that you are not convinced we live in a fascist police state."

Really? When? Half the reason the Mrs. got an SUV four years ago was so we can head for the Canadian border before they close it completely.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 20th, 2007 1:06pm
Sharky and AG are ok, but we don't want your kind up here.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
July 20th, 2007 1:36pm
No, no, Philo's WHITE, I tell you.  AND he works (or worked, by then) for Microsoft.  And he's not a REAL conservative -- why, some things the conservatives do really irritate him, a little.

And in all fairness, only HALF the reason they bought the SUV was to go to Canada.  I suspec the other half was for "family" reasons, if you get my drift.

I'm sure he'd be an asset to Canada.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 20th, 2007 1:42pm
Please stop by and pick me up when you're fleeing to Canada.  It's right on the way.  Thanks!
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 20th, 2007 1:52pm
Oh hell no - they're gonna be patrolling the Niagara corridor fiercely - that'll be the first place they close down the border. My plan is to head through the midwest and up through the Dakotas.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 20th, 2007 2:10pm
I think you're overlooking a great opportunity, though.  Even if the patrols DO catch you around Niagara, if you've got AG on board they'll probably just wave you through.

She'll probably have to do something to "appear gay", though.  But that shouldn't be too hard.  Wear Birkinstock's, or something.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 20th, 2007 2:13pm
I don't look "gay".  Sorry.  But if getting a crew cut and wearing flannel will get me into Canada, sign me up!
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 20th, 2007 2:15pm
Hi everybody, I think Bush is just doing a super job on the war on terror and the detainment camps and torture are absolutely necessary. May god bless our wise and nobel king.

I only need a 1 day exit visa to canada because I am planning to buy some maple syrup and then I will come right back. Nothing to worry about from me. No, I have no intention of visiting any place else, so there's no risk to granting me that exit visa. Yes, here are my references, including a letter from my second grade teacher.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 20th, 2007 2:24pm
I'm sure you don't.  Ward said that Canada only wanted you and Sharky, and I assumed that "being gay" was the criteria he was joking about.  So if Philo is going to get across the border, and you're going to be his passport, they'll need some way to tell.

Sorry, bad joke, getting worse and worse all the time.

Besides, historically it's getting IN to the US that's hard.  I've heard stories of immigrants to the US who "took a holiday" to Canada, only to be told they didn't have the right papers to re-enter the US.

I think that was a "Frasier" episode, actually.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 20th, 2007 2:28pm
I don't have to cut my hair.  I'll just start making out with Mrs. Philo as we approach the border crossing.  Surely everyone would be happy with that solution.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 20th, 2007 2:31pm
It wasn't the being gay, but that's a good idea...

Flannel not required.

You must be able to sing the lumberjack song, though.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
July 20th, 2007 2:31pm
"I'll just start making out with Mrs. Philo "

I'm sorry, Philo's brain is unavailable at the moment. Please leave a message after the beep.
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 20th, 2007 2:36pm
Way to get a seat in the car ...  :-)
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 20th, 2007 2:41pm

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