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I bought the Swing book by Vorobiev, but it just sits in front of me for the most part.  I've downloaded the code for the book and keep looking at all of the example programs.

So last weekend it was coding, and now it's looking at code.  I've bypassed the reading phase more and more lately, but I read the first chapter and a half that laid the groundwork, differences between Swing and Awt.
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July 21st, 2007 6:13pm
I haven't read a programming book in years...  If I'm a research phase, I read web sites or download a lot of (open source) code.  No books.

In September, I'll be starting some more research and I already started lining up the code I'm going to be reading and online documentation / materials I'm going to cover.
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July 21st, 2007 6:22pm
Oh yeah, I look at the code in an(y) editor that gives me colored syntax - not printouts.  I end up tweaking code on vi a lot, though, no colored syntax, no mah bucket.  ;-{  ...but have gotten more used to it, don't think about it as much.
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July 21st, 2007 6:23pm
you can do syntax highlighting in vi

:enable syntax

for a start
Permalink m 
July 21st, 2007 6:26pm
That's cool, I should do exactly that.

The reading phase for me is usually for when I know I'm at moron-level and want to beef up my knowledge of the "secret theory/tricks", but I eat up more time trying to figure out simple things because it's words, not code.

I lug a lot of books to and from work.  Sometimes the security-guard looks like he doesn't know what to make of me, but then I am in formal business attire, carrying around bags of books that I only delve into sometimes.  A good book on Bash can be very helpful if you are programming for a Unix box.
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July 21st, 2007 6:28pm
I just tried Eclipse yesterday for PHP code...  It's been a long while since I've taken a look at Eclipse.  Has a lot of nice features for looking at code.

The old versions were highly unsatisfying but I think it's possible that it might be good enough now to replace Komodo as my primary editor.

Finding the right editor is very hard.
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July 21st, 2007 6:29pm
vi links to vim on most Linux systems.  You are looking at vim when you do that, I'm pretty sure.  I spent a lot of time  looking up vim stuff.
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July 21st, 2007 6:30pm
I use Notepad++ or gedit.  I think my bosses actually use vi, or at least editor only.  If something automatically generates the ant file for you, then that would make sense for using something like Eclipse.  We even have makefiles for parts of the Java.  It seems like a lot of co.'s just rely on programmer brilliance (however limiting) even more than tools.
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July 21st, 2007 6:34pm
I'll have to dig out an old bookmark file, I think Pavel Vorobiev is an old Usenet guy...
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July 21st, 2007 6:49pm
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July 21st, 2007 6:52pm
Eclipse can both generate ant files from projects, and create projects from ant buildfiles.

That being said, Maven makes most of that even easier, once you get past the crap documentation.

I do most of my work in python these days, but the pydev extension to eclipse has fit the bill nicely.  Same for the js development plugins from adobe, so basically there's little reason to leave eclipse... except when I do .NET work.
Permalink star wars kid 
July 21st, 2007 7:35pm
Eclipse sounds really nice.

Yeah, the Swing book and code, it's on-line on the author's site somewhere.  Although the docs that come on-line are easy to read, there is way more material in the book version that you buy.

Why is Eclipse preferable to Netbeans for Java development?  Just curious.  I know they keep trying to improve the look of the fonts on Netbeans ( since it struck me initially as horrendous, but maybe passable now ).
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July 21st, 2007 8:20pm
"Why is Eclipse preferable to Netbeans for Java development?"

I think it's momentum.

Netbeans got better last two to three years, but before that Eclipse already got momentum and was used by many.

How about TogetherJ? Haven't heard its news lately.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 21st, 2007 8:40pm

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