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Make Better Students by Making Better Buildings

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070722224209.htm  - Architects Not Teachers Caused School Failures

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The lack of space in halls, gyms, canteens and other areas is to blame for many problems which blight today' s secondary schools, according to a University of Manchester study.
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I know my productivity changes a lot depending on the office I am in. I like a nice airy office with plenty of space and a lot of conferences rooms. Maybe a better architectures could encourage better learning and better social interaction patterns. If we designed buildings with same effort we design prisons we might have a better functional result.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 11:08am
Wow, I'm glad this is being discussed, but I'm skeptical there will be any changes since school planning is a bit like prison planning nowadays and any elements of humanity are considered frivolous and unnecessary luxuries in a State Institution.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 2:10pm
I have no idea how to respond to this style of PE reply.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 2:12pm
Hey that's for england and it says they 'raised' the school leaving age to 16 in 1972, which caused school crowding. What was the leaving age before that? 15? 12?

I personally think it is a mistake to go to 18 and more often 19 in the US. High school from 16-19 is really a big waste, nothing is learned except how to buy drugs and get girls, and that could be done just as easily out on the streets or in college.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 2:13pm
"no idea how to respond"

Sorry, I was just commenting. We've all read Christopher Alexander's books about how architecture should be about more than packing maximum shit in per square foot. It's interesting that those ideas are being raised in the general community now since it's a discussion we need.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 2:15pm
> Sorry, I was just commenting.

I mean usually you start by saying it's all BS. So something that sounds like you don't have a knife in your hand is nearly unprocessable.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 2:18pm
home-schooling ++

Not only does it get the whack jobs out of school, it leaves more room for the rest of us.
Permalink strawdog soubriquet 
July 23rd, 2007 2:29pm
You haven't been paying attention. Good ideas I say are good ideas. Bad ideas I say are bad. Nonsense I say is BS. Like the tax rates, they are BS since the numbers are below nominal amounts paid, so I knew they were tweaking the numbers before reading it. After reading it and digging up their sources, my suspicions were confirmed - it was BS since they were counting government programs for poor people as poor income, but government programs for rich people were not considered as income, and neither were things the IRS or economists consider to be income, so they were just playing with numbers until they got the numbers their overseers told them to get.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 2:33pm
> You haven't been paying attention.

Nonsense. Bad idea.

> Good ideas I say are good ideas. Bad ideas I say are
> bad. Nonsense I say is BS.

You are an army of one. And even if you don't agree it doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 2:42pm
I'm never a Dick my friend. I just state the truth and let it fall where it does. Many find the truth uncomfortable and prefer the soft sweetness of lies, while the people starve.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 4:01pm
I don't starve. I eat dem chickens what are pummeled a bit before slaughter.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 23rd, 2007 5:31pm
> I just state the truth and let it fall where it does.

The anthem of every grumpy old man.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 5:43pm
I'm living comfortably and in harmony with the environment. Are you?
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 6:31pm
> Are you?

Relevance?
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 6:54pm
I thought not. So you feel superior to all other people and that's what gives you the right to be a nasty old man?
Permalink son of parnas 
July 24th, 2007 11:47am
I'm neither nasty nor grumpy about how I live. I think the world is going to shit and people are misguided idiots, but that doesn't make be grumpy, it just makes me right. If the world would live sustainably, as I do, we would not have most problems in the world. There's no need to invade iraq or iran if every one in the us is responsible for their own energy generation and waste disposal.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 24th, 2007 3:01pm

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