Reconciling assholes for nearly a decade.

Can you really blame her?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19913210/ - Mom accused of hitting kids on flight, Woman reportedly cursed at, struck 4-year-old daughter, 2-year-old son
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 8:23pm
It's what happens when you don't set consistent rules for the kids.

Kids at home: Run around like animals, destroying the place.  Mom sits idly by, watching Oprah.

Airplane/public place: How do you expect them to behave differently?  They don't know that they have to behave in that situation.
Permalink Send private email xampl 
July 23rd, 2007 8:35pm
I had consistent rules as a kid. But sometimes I was just a little shit.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 23rd, 2007 8:39pm
Sometimes two-year-olds are just uncontrollable no matter how good the parent is.  Not that the parent shouldn't do their best to restrain and educate the kid as to proper behavior, but sometimes when exposed to the stress of airline travel, which is stressful even for adults these days, kids just lose it and go crazy.

Of course, there's never an excuse to hit and curse at children, which will make their behavior worse instead of better.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 23rd, 2007 8:42pm
Wow, all she did was slap their knees and she is facing 26 years on federal felony child abuse laws? That's fucked up.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 10:14pm
The US has become the Overreaction Capital of the World.  Everything is a crime or a lawsuit.  It's embarrassing.
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 23rd, 2007 10:40pm
It's beyond embarrassing though. This is abuse of that woman and her children. Rates of abuse in State Foster care are astonishing, and most of it is unreported. It's also a lot more traumatizing than having your leg slapped, we are talking kids locked in cages, not fed, and sex abuse gone rampant. Sex predators have learned that the foster system delivers the children to them and even pays them to abuse.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 23rd, 2007 10:52pm
The 26 years penalty is the maximum for child abuse and "interference with the flight crew".
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 23rd, 2007 11:34pm
that's so fucked.

I flew recently next to a woman with a really hard to control two year old boy. The kid didn't want to be strapped in his seat, plain and simple. I even tried to help her to keep him in there (she was having a real tough time, so I asked her if she wanted help). The steward really should have been over to help her (for instance by giving her one of those belts where the kid is strapped to the parent), but they did jack shit.

but that story is fucked. PE is right - the US legal system is a fucking joke.
Permalink $-- 
July 24th, 2007 1:36am
So...if you don't control your kid, they kick you off and maybe arrest you, and if you do control your kid, they certainly arrest you.

Making me start to wonder how I'm going to get my kids here next summer.
Permalink Aaron 
July 24th, 2007 2:44am
Motor freight.  Buy one of those big dog carriers at the pet supply store.  Tell the kids to pretend they're dogs and ship them in the hold.  They can scream bloody murder and nobody is going to hear them.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
July 24th, 2007 9:19am
Well, if he doesn't much care for his ex-wife, I'd recommend three tickets on Frontier Airlines.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 24th, 2007 10:12am
Aaron=AFS?
Permalink man on the stair 
July 24th, 2007 11:01am
Kids didn't behave in the past too. Nobody cared or the went to jail or went into the military. Now we have an instant global psychonalsphere to explore every dark corner of the world animus.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 24th, 2007 11:23am

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