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Bot rant 9,432, 123 = office pet peeves

1. 9-6; I guess this is product of rich guy Henry Ford's genius.  And so amazingly somebody, somewhere said that every human must work a 9-6 or some variation of that 8 hour, 40 hour week.  I think it has single handly killed any intelligence, creativity, health I may had in the past.  Not to mention,  it might even free up traffic if companies would relax this.

2. Traffic; I don't mind even a little traffic. I don't mind some traffic.  I do mind a mass shutdown of the system because a milk jug is the road or a car is stalled.

3. Weekly meetings with zero agenda; I wish I could take a picture of my face everytime I have to sit through one of these and you know it is bad when manager says "Well, I dont really have anything but we are going to sit here for a hour anyway and stair at each other"

4. Managers that you work for but you don't really work with.  (see #3), If I see someone once a every month and we say 2-3 words to each other every 3 months. I don't know if I can honestly say that you are my manager.  I honestly should treat you as a complete stranger.  I have a better relationship at the person from taco-bell

5. Too quiet or too noisy.  Some days it is like you are the sole person on earth.  Some days, it is like 5 meetings are going on all around you.

6. Too quiet.  Too quiet normally means people have decided to not work which means when you need something you cant find them.

7. Coworkers you work with that won't say word to you, ever.  We got it, you don't like work either but I feel a little strange sitting next to you for a year and not being able to say one thing to you.

8. (technology) Users/Testers - I dont have to say anything more

9. (technology) Network People

10. We can't have  to relieve stress

11. Workaholics - seriously, what is wrong with you people.  You stress me out.

12. Dumb Company procedures - so what are you telling me, I have to fill out my time sheet (twice), weekly status, and project plan

13. Loud obnoxious guy - every office has one, apparently his sole job is to annoy others

14. Boredom - eg, like right now (hence the list)
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 2:37pm
"10. We can't have sex to relieve stress"
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 2:37pm
$1 to the first guy that tells me how many typos are in that post.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 2:39pm
I think the 8-hour day, 5 days a week work-week was brought to you by Unions.

Before that, it was 12-hour days, 7-days a week.  Now THAT destroyed creativity.  But when you're treating people like they're machines, only the bosses need to be creative.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 24th, 2007 2:49pm
The Jews got their reputation for laziness because they took sabbath off every week. That's harsh.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 24th, 2007 2:52pm
"Before that, it was 12-hour days, 7-days a week.  Now THAT destroyed creativity.  But when you're treating people like they're machines, only the bosses need to be creative."

Yea, I read that too.  The work hours were a lot longer before Henry Ford's time.  He lightened the load.  But that was a billion years ago and during the industrial age.  Things have changed.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 2:52pm
I thought jews got their reputation for laziness because their houses are total pigstys.

[g,d,r]
Permalink Michael B 
July 24th, 2007 2:54pm
1-7,10,13:  become a contractor who works from home (yes, even 10!).

though it helps if you're a little of #11, at least self-structuring and self-motivating. and there's still #12. sometimes in triplicate.
Permalink strawdog soubriquet 
July 24th, 2007 3:01pm
Hey Bot, that's a good list. You should film yourself saying that stuff and upload it to YouTube.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 24th, 2007 3:05pm
Yea, I thought about the contractor thing at home.  Then I feel my pet peeves will involve "not having healthcare", "not ever finding contracts", "working 100 hours a week"
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 3:05pm
"Hey Bot, that's a good list. You should film yourself saying that stuff and upload it to YouTube."

Thought about sending a question to the youtube debate but my dad is the only person I know how has a camera and he is several hundred miles away.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 3:06pm
I guess the most important question is:

Why should we work?
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 24th, 2007 3:15pm
"Why should we work?"

Good point.  Especially if we don't need to.  I mean "we" in terms of society.  If I dont need Rick to work, why should Rick work?

Societys as far as I can tell haven't been very progressive and introduce new concepts in terms of lifestyle and culture.  And I guess that won't change soon.

Well, I take that back.  I have heard that places in SF are pretty progressive.  Eg, many companies there offer telecommuting and other similar trendy things.  A friend told me he couldnt even find anyone in the office when he went in on his first day on this new job down there.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 3:20pm
This is capitalism, Rick.  You don't work, you don't eat.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 24th, 2007 3:21pm
"my dad is the only person I know how has a camera and he is several hundred miles away."

A little socially isolated, are we?  How long have you lived there?
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 24th, 2007 3:31pm
Nah.

Why? If I don't work, no one will marry me.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 24th, 2007 3:33pm
Oh, Rick.  Even if you DO work...

Well, maybe it's different in China.  Or Vancouver.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 24th, 2007 3:37pm
"A little socially isolated, are we?  How long have you lived there?"

my parents move a lot, my dad has been there 4 months.  My mom got there yesterday.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 3:37pm
No, how long have YOU lived where you live that you don't know anyone with a camera?
Permalink AMerrickanGirl 
July 24th, 2007 3:42pm
"No, how long have YOU lived where you live that you don't know anyone with a camera?"

Sorry, with a video camera.  I haven't known anyone with a video camera.  I had a webcam for a little bit (and it didnt work well) but that was it.
Permalink Bot Berlin 
July 24th, 2007 3:52pm
#1 is Taylorism.  Studies done on peak efficiencies of people found that working someone more than 40 hours a week made them less efficient, so the work week got cut to 40.  If there is enough work that it takes people on average more than 40 hours a week to complete it, it is more efficient to hire more people than to make them work more hours.

This is true of menial assembly line type labor.  I don't think enough study has been done to determine peak efficiency for mental labor, like programming, but there is some evidence that > 40 is less efficient than 40.

Either way, Taylorism is dependent on labor being fungible, which is generally true of assembly work, and certainly not true of programming.
Permalink Aaron 
July 24th, 2007 4:01pm
What year did Taylor do his research?
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 24th, 2007 4:25pm
I don't think Bot knows and normal people, e.g. ones who might have kids or have some other use for a cheap videocam.
Permalink Send private email Ward 
July 24th, 2007 4:28pm
Doesn't your cell phone have video?  Poor quality, perhaps.  But we need your input on YouTube. There aren't enough people BITCHING about how bad they have it.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
July 24th, 2007 4:35pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management

Looks like 1911.  Right when factories got going, when computers were people who did math.
Permalink Aaron 
July 24th, 2007 4:53pm
>>"not having healthcare",

How many people seriously need this?

What with emergency services, and medical tourism, I think too many USians are bending over the barrel and taking it over this one.
Permalink Send private email Tapiwa 
July 25th, 2007 5:35am

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