Sanding our assholes with 150 grit. Slowly. Lovingly.

mouseland

http://www.saskndp.com/history/mouseland.html


its time for a revolution.  lets fuck the fats cats up the arse with their own tails.
Permalink worldsSmallestViolin 
July 24th, 2007 10:28pm
Thanks. That's very good.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 24th, 2007 10:57pm
From the link:
"The ending shows Tommy Douglas has faith that someday socialism, which recognizes human rights and dignity, will win over capitalism and the mere pursuit of wealth and power"

Socialism, which recognizes human rights and dignity? Hmmm... I'm afraid the use of the word 'socialism' here is just another way fo claiming to be 'The Good Guys'. 

Here's a thought. Granted we agree that the 'mere pursuit of wealth and power' has some nasty side effects the way to harnass these side effects is to have this 'pursuit' fail more often than not. A nice old fashioned struggle for mere survival could pull that off nicely.
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
July 25th, 2007 3:08am
So we should bell the cats?  Or maybe we could swarm the cats when the cats are sleeping?

Probably best to become cats ourselves, although how we pull that off I don't know.  Maybe we should become dogs instead.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
July 25th, 2007 8:54am
Bird flu.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 25th, 2007 10:19am
Very good story.  Except I completely disagree with the assertion that "all politicians are alike".

That assertion is the assertion of a third-party candidate, a Ross Perot, a Ralph Nader, a person trying to BECOME a politician while tearing down politicians.

It's an appeal to the dissatisfied, which contains the seeds of its own destruction.

Because the people being elected ARE from the population of mice.  It's not correct to say the mice are electing cats.  If the mice see the people in power AS cats, that's a mouse problem.

But it's a good story because it does encapsulate very well the complete distortion that occurs when people say "both sides are identical, they're all Cats, and the People are mice".  It's your own perfectionism that leads you to identify everyone seeking power as a "Cat".
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 25th, 2007 10:31am
Politicians are not from the mouse stock if you think of cats and mice as the opposite sides of the ever-widening gap in wealth.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 25th, 2007 10:37am
Except they're not.  There are rich Democrats -- where do you think Edwards came from?

If you can't vote for the better alternative, because you want a perfect alternative, then you'll get the worse alternative.

And the problem with a 'perfect' alternative is that everybody has a different idea of what 'perfect' is.  So any particular 'perfect' alternative will ALWAYS recieve a minority of the votes.  Leaving the way clear for the 'worse' alternative.

There's ALWAYS going to be more people making less than $200,000 a year.  Don't you think those people can nominate and elect politicians who'll implement policies to help them and their children?

Well, they CAN, but only IF they're willing to unite.  If you can successfully get them to fragment, or get them disenchanted with the entire process by telling them "every politician is the same", then again you leave the field clear for those you oppose to win.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 25th, 2007 10:44am
And this "ever widening gap" between the middle-class and wealthy is a new phenomenon, based on Reaganomic type tax-cuts for the wealthy.

It's not inevitable.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 25th, 2007 10:45am
My point is that there are no middle-class politicians at any meaningful level, and there have not been any for quite some time.

That being the case, the underlings are indeed destined to eternally being shafted. Even if you took a Gates or a Buffett, that has the understanding that 30% > 17%, their lives and lifestyles are so disconnected from reality that they don't know what people really need.

I don't think either of them were born into ultra-rich families, which explains their willingness to even recognize basic math. But it has been so long since either of them lived as 'average' that things are different even from when they would've done it.

Unless you have leadership consistently coming from the heart of the people, the heart of the people is not what is leading, no matter the intent of the leader.
Permalink Send private email JoC 
July 25th, 2007 4:04pm

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