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Pope says "those people in Kansas are idiots"

OMG this is the best news to come out of the Vatican in a very long time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/
Permalink Send private email Philo 
July 25th, 2007 11:29pm
I think more importnat is his support of enviromental concerns.
Permalink Rick Zeng 
July 25th, 2007 11:33pm
It's good to read, but isn't the Pope the Antichrist? The people of Kansas will just think it is a message from Satan trying to lead them astray...
Permalink Send private email bon vivant 
July 25th, 2007 11:37pm
well, the muslims took his comments out of context, so the fundamentalists should get to do the same.
Permalink ward on a treo 700p 
July 25th, 2007 11:56pm
"the muslims took his comments out of context"

You kidding me? he called Moslems prophet a terrorist. THAT was the context.
Permalink I am a tutor 
July 26th, 2007 12:06am
> “Above all it does not answer the great
> philosophical question, ‘Where does everything come from?’”

They must have fired that other Cardinal who was going the other way. If one didn't know better one can imagine they visited Oz and traded a bauble or two for brain and a heart.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 26th, 2007 12:42am
The pope didn't say anything about people in Kansas. Most of what he apparently said recently was paraphrased in the article so it's hard to say what he did say, especially since I can't find any source materials for this week's statement.

The pope laid out his position a couple years ago in a book he wrote called "Creation and Evolution". There, he states that "the theory of evolution is not a complete, scientifically proven theory". Which is of course a correct statement.
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 26th, 2007 12:45am
> The pope didn't say anything about people in Kansas.

You are as literal as freshly milked cow.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 26th, 2007 1:28am
> he called Moslems prophet a terrorist. THAT was the context.

Actually he quoted someone else who had said something similar, IIRC.
Permalink man on the stair 
July 26th, 2007 2:13am
This just in: students from rural areas like Kansas have substantially higher proficiency in science and math than other students.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070725/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rural_students
Permalink Practical Economist 
July 26th, 2007 2:15am
> "Benedict also said the human race must listen to “the voice of the Earth” or risk destroying its very existence."

Wow, listen to the voice of the earth? The pope turned pagan overnight? Awesome.

As much as I despise the (institution of the) pope and his ideas on morality and sexuality, deep down the man is a scientist who knows how to separate faith and morality from science and facts. There is some hope in that.
Permalink Send private email Locutus of Borg 
July 26th, 2007 2:48am
I've been supporting the absurdity of evolution vs. creationism - 'evolution and creationism can co-exist' argument for the last couple years.  At least they don't need to "take it from me" now.  ;-D
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
July 26th, 2007 4:52am
Except before, I was supporting it by myself.  hehe.  I had never heard anyone else mention this point of view before, besides moi.  ;-)  Actually, if only I believe it, by people's reaction, that seems to make it an irrelevant argument by definition.  harhar.
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
July 26th, 2007 4:55am
The thought just struck me.  Tell me this:  If I killed off all the elephants, let's say, just like all the T-Rex' are gone.  Well, why don't they come back?  C'mon now, isn't this stuff supposed to be repeatable?  What do we need, 50 billion years, or do we need some pool of primordial soup, in an environment that the earth no longer posses?

Well, if the environment has changed that much, and it is that important, then for one thing, something like global warming really is a huge, huge concern, IMHO.
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
July 26th, 2007 5:21am
possesses
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
July 26th, 2007 5:23am
> Well, why don't they come back?

You mean something else evolves to fill the niche abandoned by the elephants (you murderer!)? Maybe it will, if you fancy waiting aronud a few million years to see.
Permalink man on the stair 
July 26th, 2007 5:46am
and to think he was one of the more conservative options for pope...

it just goes to show you have far off those bible thumpers have gone.  it's like they're dropped into some kind of self imposed dark age...
Permalink Kenny 
July 26th, 2007 9:07am
The man is pretty conservative on a lot of things.  There's that whole primacy of the Roman Catholic church thing, which went over roughly like a lead balloon.
Permalink Send private email Clay Dowling 
July 26th, 2007 10:27am
Why didn't the T-Rex come back?  Because its environmental niche was filled by some other creature(s).

Besides, isn't an alligator/crocodile a T-Rex by another name?  In that way, it never completely left.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 26th, 2007 10:38am
Yay! The Pope is sane.  That helps.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
July 26th, 2007 10:39am
----"There, he states that "the theory of evolution is not a complete, scientifically proven theory". Which is of course a correct statement."----

Perhaps PE would like to expand on where it is incomplete, or not scientifically proven.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
July 26th, 2007 11:01am
What in science is ever complete? That's why it's not religion.
Permalink son of parnas 
July 26th, 2007 11:04am
Correct, but the fact that the theory of evolution does not explain the emergence of self-replicating molecules no more makes it incomplete than not explaining why people liked Oasis makes the theory of relativity incomplete.
Permalink Send private email Stephen Jones 
July 26th, 2007 11:34am

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