http://cantwell.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=279895

won't be good for the US, China, or the world.

> props

appropriating african american language?

Her statement is reasonable. The US sells dollars to the Chinese. What the Chinese do with those dollars is their business.

As was pointed out to me a while back in a thread about using cooking oil to power motor vehicles, it's common practice to charge people varying amounts for the same thing depending on the intended use.

"cantwell" - great name for a politico.

Aaron -- your point?

Just that if we're going to charge someone more for driving a car with cooking oil than cooking with it, why can't we charge the Chinese more for US dollars if they do things with that money that we didn't originally intend them to do?

what the law proposes is to 'allow U.S. companies to seek anti-dumping duties on goods from any country that maintains a "fundamentally misaligned" exchange rate after being formally cited by the United States.'

Who exactly defines the "fundamental misalignment"?  Sounds like someone is getting a bit scared by the slide of the dollar and wants some way to prop it up.

good Q.

who defines 'original intent'? the cooking oil things sounds like someone who didn't know wtf they were talking about.

That I don't know what I was talking about?  Or the original thread?  It's around here somewhere.

lets have it.

I'm looking for it, but the search thing here is less than helpful.

Huh.  Can't find it, and it's not worth my time, really.  It was about how there was a guy who modified his vehicle to use vegetable oil, and he was getting hit with a fuel tax for the oil he was using.  Knock yourself out looking it up.

"why can't we charge the Chinese more for US dollars if they do things with that money that we didn't originally intend them"

We can do that if we want. In this situation it's called a tariff. Tariffs would result in WTO sanctions, but I am OK with that.

"It was about how there was a guy who modified his vehicle to use vegetable oil, and he was getting hit with a fuel tax for the oil he was using."

Most federal taxes are like that. When you make moonshine, even for your own personal consumption, the thing they arrest you for is not paying the federal liquor tax.

How does search work again?

how do you make it understand "must include all words"

Beats me.  If you don't enclose it in quotes, it's an OR.  If you do, it's an exact phrase search.

What idiot designed that?  google

Hey, I never bothered to learn AND for Google either.

+search +term +aaron +whatever

Oh, THAT.  Ok, that I use all the time.  Brain fart.

That works here, too?  Huh.  Never tried it.

Nope, it's an OR here. A search of:
+vegetable +tax
yielded a lot of threads, at least one of which had vegetable but not tax in it.

Unfortunate.

yeah the plus thing doesn't work.

isn't google AND by default?

>Vice-Premier Wu told a dinner in Washington in May attended by Paulson and Bernanke that the yuan's value was not the cause of the deficit.

>She added that about 85 per cent of China's surplus with the US is from foreign companies exporting products no longer made in the United States, such as shoes.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/28/content_5445216.htm

85%. Wow. That's one huge ass percentage. Those aren't ~Chinese~ companies doing 85% of the exporting from China, those are ~western~ companies - mostly American. Pushing for "trade sanctions" against "Chinese imports" would be sanctions against those Benedict Arnold CEOs who chose to betray American workers by shipping jobs overseas. So, on second thought, shoot the motherfuckers.

Those CEOs and all the stuff made in china is why walmart stuff is so cheap for poor people. 

Competitive advantage.  Let the chinese make shoes and let the US design web sites. 

How would you have it play out?  The US makes shoes and the chinese stay poor forever?

Let me know if there is another alternative.

nationalism is stupid. nearly as stupid as die hard individualism.

The US's trade deficit flipped over last quarter into the black. Mo' money!

What the fuck are you talking about?  No such event took place.

i hear shit on npr while working. who knows what I remember.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11879660

Deficit goes down. Mixed up my velocity and my acceleration. Acceleration has flipped while velocity is still bad.

ok, that's not it either. oh well.

Ah, so while things are still getting worse, they are not getting worse quite as quickly as they used to be.

Wow, if that keeps up, we may eventually get to the point where, while things will still be bad, they will be slowly improving.

Unless, of course, we have a negative jerk that counteracts the recent positive one.

I don't remember what the derivative of jerk is.

asshole?

> i hear shit on npr while working. who knows what I remember.


Fair enough.

"products no longer made in the United States, such as shoes"

That's funny. I buy all american made shoes myself. They not only last far longer and look better, but they are less expensive than Chinese shoes.