COTers are stupid
"You could instead allow the third world to compete on a level playing field by removing first world farm subsidies."
No actually sharkfish can't remove first world farm subsidies, but thanks for your worthless self important pseudo intellectual bullshit.
November 11th, 2007 4:40pm
DOHA couldn't remove first world farm subsidies either, so it's probably beyond any one person's ability, even Sharky's.
I can only assume you are up rather late, live in Japan or don't understand economics.
November 11th, 2007 5:50pm
OP> No actually sharkfish can't remove first world farm subsidies
>> so it's probably beyond any one person's ability, even Sharky's.
Yes, exactly, you're agreeing with me. The quoted bit is some other moron cotter in a recent immigration thread.
ps DOHA DOHA DOHA Doha. It's a city not an acronym.
gfg in SEATTLE
November 11th, 2007 5:57pm
Don't assume what you don't know.
The DOHA (capped for emphasis) WTO trade round collapsed on some first world countries' reluctance to remove farm subsidies.
But you knew that, surely.
November 11th, 2007 6:12pm
Of course I know the Doha round collapsed, as did Seattle (see my sig).
What is your point?
gfg in SEATTLE
November 11th, 2007 6:15pm
I can only assume you are up rather late, live in Japan or don't understand economics.........Don't assume what you don't know.
did he mean to say that?
November 11th, 2007 6:33pm
Indeed. Prove me wrong.
November 11th, 2007 6:52pm
Prove you wrong?
What kind of stupid juice have you consumed?
gfg - honestly how stupid are u?
November 11th, 2007 8:10pm
trollop's comment regarding farm subsidies somehow being linked to the us immigration debate was indeed beyond idiotic. i was too busy stalking sharkfish at the time to reply, but now i've had a bit of a rest...
the us immigration "problem" is that some people don't like that so many mexicans are coming into the us. sure, there are other illegal immigrants, but when people talk about the "immigration problem" they mean mexicans.
mexico has shitty farmland. 80% of the country is a giant dustbowl. the usa has the world's best farmland. especially california. there is no farm product that could be grown in mexico more cheaply than in the USA simply because they can't compete with their natural resources. so how the fuck would reducing farm subsidies cause any sort of change in us/mexico immigration?
November 11th, 2007 8:16pm
who said farm subsidies would bring higher farm produce from Mexico? what about the rest of the world? lower subsidies would mean food imports (from anywhere in the world) would be more competitive with American products. hence, fewer American food products would be grown. hence, there would be a smaller demand for Mexican (or other) migrant farm labor. hence, fewer Mexican (or other) illegal immigrants.
of course the premise is false too, the US does import Mexican foodstuffs: "Jul 2006 ... Ratio of the average U.S. import of Mexican lettuce each year to the average Mexican import of U.S. lettuce: 1:1"
November 11th, 2007 8:36pm
90% of Australia is a dustbowl and we export food very successfully without the economic distortion brought by farm subsidies. If it's not worth growing it doesn't get grown.
New Zealand has the same attitude.
Fortunately we don't have to share what water we have with anybody else.
Poverty is the third world is entrenched by denying export markets to third world growers, denying access to technical improvements that could be paid for by the income those exports would bring and by charging way over the top for their IP imports.
All that is needed is to stop subsidising the unnecessary production of food in the USA, improve conditions in Central America and emigration then becomes less compelling.
If you can't see that, you need help:
November 11th, 2007 8:42pm
so you really think that if the USA turns off farm subsidies, we'll also solve the immigration "problem?"
November 12th, 2007 1:10am
I heard that many illegals are starting to complain that they can't find jobs.
November 12th, 2007 1:28pm
Sometimes I like to have a nice bowl of dog food.
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