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sharing music

How do you set up a personal bittorent?

I want to upload 2 GIG of music to my work machine from home.

I don't have a way to ftp (no space on my personal ftp machine, and I'm getting timeouts, etc.).

Other suggestions welcome. I can't believe I can't figure this out on my own.

Maybe I need to hang up my techie belt.
Permalink sharkfish 
August 22nd, 2005
DVD burner?
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 22nd, 2005
Oh, duh...teach me to follow links before I post.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 22nd, 2005
Actually, I think *I'm* gonna buy one of those and throw it in my bag for travel. Would solve a lot of problems on the road...

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
Setting up a torrent is pretty easy. Download Azureus, go to Tools/Options...Tracker, turn the internal tracker on, then File/Create Torrent... Fill in the blanks, put the .torrent file somewhere where you can access it from work, and you're all set.

There are a couple of web interface plugins available for Azureus, too, so that you can manage torrents remotely. Some people knock it because it's a Java app, but as far as torrenting goes it's the dog's apples. :)
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 22nd, 2005
I've used a USB hard drive in the past to hold my music. You don't get (too many) complaints from the IT department that you're taking up precious company resources that way.

Lower latency & higher capacity, too. But more expensive.
Permalink example 
August 22nd, 2005
BTW, moving 2GB of data over a consumer link is going to take much longer than you think - upload for *any* connection (except T1) runs around 256kb/sec
2GB @ 256kb/sec => 22 hours

Your IT dept may also notice this.
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
"Your IT dept may also notice this."

Ho ho. I am the IT department.
Permalink sharkfish 
August 22nd, 2005
You'll just have to write yourself up, then!

:)
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 22nd, 2005
I don't want to put the music on DVD/CD.

Matt, that's what I wanted to know. Azureus looks pretty cool.

Trying it now...
Permalink sharkfish 
August 22nd, 2005
Let me re-phrase the original post a bit...

...I need a no-brainer way to send 2 GIG of data over the internet to someone. Bittorrent is the only way I could think of besides burning the data to disk.

How would you tell someone how to use a torrent client to push their data to someone else? So they install Azureus (pain for normal users--what if they don't have Java properly installed), and make a torrent for me. Not too bad I guess...I mean, getting them to download Azureus would not be too big of a deal, but...I tried to get this same person to use the Google Gmail GDrive thingy and that failed so if I ask the user to try Azureus it had better work or I start to look bad...
Permalink sharkfish 
August 22nd, 2005
Bit torrent clients are easier, you just download them and they associate with the torrent file type, you point them at the torrent file which has the necessary gubbins to kick off the client and do its thing.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
August 22nd, 2005
Oh...sorry...didn't know "over the internet" was a requirement. My bad.

Hmm...I was going to suggest choppin it into chunks small enough to be sent by that Token thingy mentioned in Sathy's thread, but at 2 Gigs, that's a lot of chunks.

A torrent is probably best from what I've heard, but I've never used it.

So...sorry, can't really contribute to your solution.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 22nd, 2005
Is the data constantly updating or something? (Like you want them to share your music library all the time?)

Honestly, if the issue is "send 2GB of data to someone" then the best solution today is "burn it to DVD" Honestly - the cost of an *external* DVD burner is $99; you can get internals for under $50. How much is your time worth?

And if you want to share your music library, how about setting up a shoutcast stream? Or there are other solutions for sharing music libraries across the internet in a streaming way as opposed to sending files (I'm sure others here are way smarter on that than I am)

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
I just looked at yousendit, and it lets you send files up to 1 Gig - chop the blob in half, send each half, reassemble.

May be too tricky for the remote person if they are not very savvy.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 22nd, 2005
Hmmm. YouSendIt combined with WinZip might be even better. Most people know how to use WinZip, and they can use a browser interface. A lot simpler. Burning DVD's is cool too, but what if the user doesn't have a burner? Lots of cheap people out there, including me. I don't have $99 to toss around.

<rant>
Speaking of $99, I always get a little miffed at the suggestion that "it's only <insert dollar figure>".

I make good money, but the cost of living is very high. That $99 is a 2-3 of meals out at a nice restaurant, a few movie rentals, nice toiletries instead of generic...

...just throwing small amounts on credit cards isn't good enough. If I do enough of that, I have to carry a balance. I don't carry balances. Period. I refuse to enslave myself to Visa.
</rant>
Permalink sharkfish 
August 22nd, 2005
sharkfish, a very, very valid rant, and I am very cautious about suggesting "it's only $x"

However, I do also balance the cost of the recommendation against the cost of doing it *without* the recommendation. While dollars and hours are not interchangeable (esp. if you're salaried), it is a consideration to be made - if you spend 8-10 hours figuring this out and getting it to work, that's almost a full day of your life.

Would you spend $99 to get a day of your life back?

[shrug] I was suggesting the option - you are free to do with it what you wish. YMMV. :)

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
http://www.yousendit.com/

(from the other thread)
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 22nd, 2005
how does yousendit make money?
Permalink Jared 
August 22nd, 2005
Premium subscriptions. The free version is advertising.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 22nd, 2005
sharkfish, you're falsely assuming that using bittorrent will be any faster than a vanilla upload. It's only faster in a many-to-many situation, not in yours.

Set up an FTP server at home and leech from work.
Permalink Alex 
August 23rd, 2005
Make it two 1Gb batches and use http://www.transferbigfiles.com ?

I'd still recommend sneakernetting it over some USB gizmo though.
Permalink Just me (Sir to you) 
August 23rd, 2005
Gonna be slow, but you could set up a vpn and just use windows file sharing.
Permalink Joel Coehoorn 
August 23rd, 2005
Oh, what someone else said about bittorrent not being faster is correct. You're better off using something like eDonkey, Morpheus, or the like it it's just you to one person. The overhead involved with bittorrent in splitting up the file will actually make a torrent download much slower if there are only two of you.
Permalink Joel Coehoorn 
August 23rd, 2005

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