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burnout & depression

It seems to be as if everyone on this board has complained about this in some form or other.

Somehow it feels like the average here is higher than the people I know in the real world....

so...lets see a headcount :)

Are you, or have you ever, been burnt out, depressed, or suffer from some other form of mental illness?
Permalink Jesus H Christ 
January 17th, 2006
Burnt out sure.

Depressed, at one time or another. Sorta goes along with being burnt out.

No mental illness except for an addiction to ?off.
Permalink Almost H. Anonymous 
January 17th, 2006
Yeah, but it's the girlfriend's - or boss's - fault. (It used to be that the boss was my girlfriend. But that was a long time ago. And it certaily wasn't depressing.)
Permalink nananon 
January 17th, 2006
Major burn out in my third year of college ... nothing since.
Depression ... just during my divorce, thank fuck that's long over.
Mental Illness ... I'm with AHA on this one, just ?off.

Apathy to start, is a different story ... about two years now and toward just about everything. Once I get going on something though it's a different story but if I let a break in the flow last too long ... apathy to start sets back in.
Permalink PNII 
January 17th, 2006
Remember that scene from Parenthood where Steve Martin was in the audience while his kid was wrecking the school play? He's watching in horror while the camera's whipping around like he's on a rollercoaster.

I feel like that all the time.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 18th, 2006
Depression twice. Once after a stroke and again after a herniated disk.
Permalink underscore 
January 18th, 2006
All three. (Well, depending on your definition of mental illness -- do manic depression and psychotic episodes count?)
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 18th, 2006
I had a pretty good paranioa going after doing nothing but sleeping all day and smoking weed, drinking coffee and playing games all night for a full year after college. Nothing stress related though.
Permalink jz 
January 18th, 2006
I think I'm the only person who hasn't suffered from it.
Permalink Colm 
January 18th, 2006
"Are you, or have you ever, been burnt out, depressed, or suffer from some other form of mental illness?"

Burnt out? Yes, mildly. Since I wasn't in a very demanding job at the time, I managed to get back on my feet on my own, i.e., without professional help.

Depressed? Again, mildly. The "I'm pretty much tired of life" thoughts were common, but, fortunately, not the will to do anything foolish because of it.

Mental illness? AFAIK, not really. Although, sometimes, I do have some doubts about my mental condition :)
Permalink Paulo Caetano 
January 18th, 2006
I was severely burnt out three months ago, as I was putting in my final semester of college while working fulltime and trying to maintain a semblance of family life.

Now that I don't have school sucking away all my energy I'm finally able to claw my way up out of burnout.

I've also had my periods of mild depression, but they usually coincide with burnout. In my case, burnout is depressing.
Permalink Steve Barbour 
January 18th, 2006
Yes. A bit. No.
Permalink Erik Springelkamp 
January 18th, 2006
Ever suffer from indecision?
Permalink Colm 
January 18th, 2006
Haven't had a case of "stay home with the blinds closed sitting in the closet" depression yet.

I've have had mild cases of burn-out, though. So far, I haven't ever been let go from the job because of it. Something else usually comes along that piques my interest, and pulls me out of the nosedive.

Usually what causes it is a sense of futility -- the feeling that no matter what I do, the product will be a piece of shit, the customer will be unhappy, and I will have worked long & hard for no good reason.
Permalink example 
January 18th, 2006
Yes.

For a while last night it looked like my youngest had appendicitis. It turned out he didn't just something with similar symptoms...however it still meant I only got 2 hours sleep so I'm not firing on all cylinders at the mo'.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 18th, 2006
I've definitely felt mild burn-out before - in fact, it seems like I feel it every day about an hour before it's time to go home!
Permalink Sassy 
January 18th, 2006
I've been burnt out and depressed fairly severely and rather consistently for the last two and a half years, and it's starting to take a toll on my physical health.

I used to *never* get sick, and now it seems like I feel like crap almost every day and have all sorts of odd aches and pains that I'm starting to worry about. Everything began going to shite about the same time: Our new CIO came onto the scene (yes, it may as well have been literally, as he's the type who insists on leaving his mark *everywhere*), I broke up with my girlfriend, and partially as a result of no longer sharing expenses, a ton of financial baggage picked up long ago started to get out of hand.

I'm approaching my 15 year anniversary with the same company which is still privately held but growing very rapidly. Most of what I used to like about working here had to do with the fact that it was a small business, non-corporate atmosphere, but with all the growth, those things are slowly but surely dying away. Instead of smart people with proven track records being able to improvise and be creative, everything is shifting toward a more top-down micro-management style, where the CIO is the "architect" and everyone else is basically a code monkey. I *understand* the "stategy" of reeling in the "cavaliers" due to questions of scalability, etc, but that doesn't mean I want to work in such an environment. I don't like having to figure out ways to trick the CIO into thinking that every new idea was his. (He actually says things in meetings like "My vote counts 5!" and then waits for nervous laughter from the yes-men.)

What's worse is there's nothing that can be done about the boss -- he's a cousin of the owners, and the owners have always been very nepotistic as they tend not to trust "outsiders", so he's basically untouchable. A couple of the other devs who hadn't been there a long as I have have already quit for the same reasons. It's obvious that I need to follow suit, but it's just not easy to give up something stable (if unfulfilling) for something unknown.

Plus...I basically have no savings except for my 401K, so I can't afford to quit without finding something else first, preferably a rich girlfriend...
Permalink bionicroach 
January 18th, 2006

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