8, 8 days until Disney! Ah ha ha!

New "bin Laden" tape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/middle_east/4628738.stm

Apparently he says 'the reason there had not been an attack in the US since 11 September 2001 was not because of superior US security, but because the group had been engaged in activities in Iraq"'

So proving that Dubya was right to attack Iraq (for the US' sake, not Iraq's). Thanks. Those people who oppose the war /really/ needed that.
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January 19th, 2006
Does not compile.

If Bush had attacked Nigeria, Al Quaeda would be fighting in Nigeria now.
Permalink Erik Springelkamp 
January 19th, 2006
Remember that bin Laden is quite happy to encourage Shrub and the Very Reverend into all kinds of action, their actions breed him new committed fighters even if he doesn't control them, finance them or have very much to do with them except be a figure head.

If, as reported, there was an element of an offer of truce in the broadcast then that would be interesting. It would never be accepted of course, and it may well be offered in that full knowledge as just yet another lever on those wavering in their support.

The terrorist supported by the people (whomever they are), cannot be defeated to defeat terrorists (or freedom fighters) one must convince those that support them and give them succour to reject them.

That was never possible via an invasion.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 19th, 2006
"If Bush had attacked Nigeria, Al Quaeda would be fighting in Nigeria now."

*sigh* if only... I would never get emails anymore though.
Permalink Phil 
January 19th, 2006
For that to be diminished Holland would need to be invaded.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 19th, 2006
It's clear that Bin Laden is trying to help Bush...remember how he came out with a tape right before our election in 04?  He helped boost his popular opinion in mid- 2001, etc.. The man is clearly a Bush fan.
Permalink Phil 
January 19th, 2006
this might be a more meaningful statement had he said it right after the iraq invasion...
Permalink Kenny 
January 19th, 2006
We have been threatened with invasion by the US recently, when the International Penal Court in The Hague would try to press charges on Americans.
Permalink Erik Springelkamp 
January 19th, 2006
They have succeeded in their goal if escalating a world wide war. They want what is happening in iraq to radicalize potential fighters. So going to war in iraq was just brilliant. It's like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly that landed on your face.
Permalink son of parnas 
January 19th, 2006
"Does not compile.

If Bush had attacked Nigeria, Al Quaeda would be fighting in Nigeria now."

Careful. He might get hold of that and attack USA. That way he would trick 'Qaeda into a trap !!
Permalink Vineet Reynolds 
January 19th, 2006
The idea behind 9/11 (according to bin Laden) was to trick the Americans into starting a war they couldn't win in Afghanistan in precisely the same way the Soviets did.

Afghanistan didn't work out the same way, but it's looking like Iraq will.
Permalink Colm O'Connor 
January 19th, 2006
Yo, tapes are so 1989, kid. Gimme my OBL on dvd at least. Better yet, is Osama on iTunez? His tracks is crackin', yo.
Permalink Wesley Snipes 
January 19th, 2006
"I want justice," Bush said. "And there's an old poster out West… I recall, that said, 'Wanted, Dead or Alive.'"

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/17/bush.powell.terrorism
Permalink V4GHB 
January 19th, 2006
+1 Colm. bin Laden has repeatedly said that his plan was to bankrupt America in a long, protracted war.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 19th, 2006
"+1 Colm. bin Laden has repeatedly said that his plan was to bankrupt America in a long, protracted war. "

In that case, we'll be Russia inside five years.
Permalink cubiclegrrl 
January 19th, 2006
"We have been threatened with invasion by the US recently"

do you have a link? that sounds interesting.
Permalink Jesus H Christ 
January 19th, 2006
Not seeing anything about an invasion threat in those links...
Permalink flash91 
January 19th, 2006
Then you don't read so well:

This legislation, known as the "Hague Invasion Act" contains provisions restricting US cooperation with the ICC; making US support of peacekeeping missions largely contingent on achieving impunity for all US personnel; and even granting the President permission to use “any means necessary” to free US citizens and allies from ICC custody in The Hague.
Permalink Erik Springelkamp 
January 19th, 2006
It actually should be entitled the "Henry Kissinger Protection and Rescue Act".
Permalink trollop 
January 19th, 2006
Thats a pretty clear threat IMO.

we're saying "if you hold our people, we will attack and retrieve them"


how blind would you have to be *not* to see that as a threat?
Permalink Jesus H Christ 
January 19th, 2006
---"Afghanistan didn't work out the same way, but it's looking like Iraq will."----

Afghanistan is getting worse each month. Basically, the Americans joined up with the warlords that opposed the Taliban, and fought much of the war by proxy.

At present the warlords hold the North of the country, the Taliban are regaining most of the South, and the government holds Kabul more or less.

Opium production is at record levels, the occupying troops are being increasingly harrassed, and the only reason it's not considered a total failure, is that the Americans passed as much responsibility as they could onto the NATO countries that, like the British, were daft enough to accept it.
Permalink Stephen Jones 
January 19th, 2006
The Netherlands are close to a political crisis on a request by the US (officially Nato) to supply a new unit to Afganistan.

I'm afraid our government is going to push this through parliament with the aid of the opposition.

They will be sent to Uruzgan, a province next to Kandahar, where the Taliban was strong, and where resistance is growing stronger.
Permalink Erik Springelkamp 
January 19th, 2006
> If Bush had attacked Nigeria, Al Quaeda would be fighting in Nigeria now

And? Effect would be the same, in which case Bush would still be "right" - the war keeps the US safe (if you exclude the kids they send over to fight it, but they don't count because they're someone else's).
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January 20th, 2006
>> Better yet, is Osama on iTunez?

That's it! Osama should podcast!
Permalink GML 
January 20th, 2006

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