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Google replacing Internet

I saw somewhere that Google might be building their own Internet.

I suspect a lot of firms would like to do this, but few have the resources.

Anyone have any thoughts on this ? Not you, Bill ;-)
Permalink New York ??? 
August 30th, 2005
Because they're buying all that "dark fiber" ? I'm not sure you could build another Internet from dark fiber.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 30th, 2005
I pass loads of dark fibre every day. Do you think I could sell it to them?
Permalink  
August 30th, 2005
Yeah, the "dark fibre" thing sounds interesting. I assume they're getting a good deal.
Permalink New York ??? 
August 30th, 2005
Google wants all your data. that means moving zetamasses of data to move around the globe, fast. Dark fibre is dirt cheap from all the glut poored into the ground in the 90's. Liting it up has become cheap as well ...

Imagine GoogleDrive. You're HD is just a asynchronous cache. Windows Vista installed on GoogleOS serving a GoogleDrive c:\. Now Google owns the concrete floor. They basicaly reverse the table on MS. But man, that would require big pipes, right?
Permalink Just me (Sir to you) 
August 30th, 2005
I don't think they'll be able to buy enough to provide that much bandwidth. It must be something else.
Permalink son of parnas 
August 30th, 2005
Sounds like a good way to set yourself up as an ISP to me, as well as a telecom company. VOIP, etc.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 30th, 2005
I think Aaron is getting warm there. There has been rumors of Google buying Skype as well.
Permalink Jared 
August 30th, 2005
> set yourself up as an ISP to me, as well as a telecom company. VOIP, etc.

I think I know what you're saying, but my brain isn't quite connecting the dots. Are you implying something like the following may be in Google's plans:

- Buy up dark fiber.
- ??? Partner with existing carriers ???
- Telecom access on your network. Which would include:
  a. data access.
  b. a phone number.
  c. storage.
  d. targeted advertisements.
  e. a teleporter.
  f. free 30 day trial of Chris McKinstry's Jargonizer.
Permalink Jeff Barton 
August 30th, 2005
s/Telecom access on your network/Sell telecom access on *their* network
Permalink Jeff Barton 
August 30th, 2005
The US government does this too, no big deal. Just a seperate network. ATT probably has the 411 on all kinds of networks, I only know of the military one.
Permalink Berlin Brown 
August 30th, 2005
Jared, I don't think they'll buy Skype, as they just launched GoogleTalk, so it is no longer required. They might want the customer base, but I bet they can ramp up to a few million pretty quickly.
Permalink New York ??? 
August 31st, 2005
Yeah, but the rumors can indicate a direction.

Maybe all the dark fiber is for a special Google VoIP network that will sound better than Skype. Aside from the usual serving up billions of pages a day, including pages with tons of thumbnails, what bandwidth requirements does Google have? Why would they need their own fiberoptic lines?

It's not like they're paying for the bandwidth on the local level, so it's unlikely they want it for that. It's probably to reduce lag between cities.

Wasn't there a rumor of Google serving up video too? I guess those could be served as normal pages, but anything streaming could really benefit from their own fiberoptic lines.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 31st, 2005
Nobody needs their own fibers in a sufficiently open and competitive market, but there comes a point at wich you can have it cheaper this way.
Permalink Just me (Sir to you) 
August 31st, 2005
Maybe they're not going to use it for anything other than tying together all their far flung server farms.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 31st, 2005

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