8, 8 days until Disney! Ah ha ha!

Dr Who goes to the US ... cultural issues

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Purchased by SciFi channel. But, err, one of the bit characters has his own spinoff which is impressive after one series. He's called Captain Jack.

Doesn't that name have 'cultural significance' in the US?
Permalink Chooser 
January 13th, 2006
Jack ?off?
Permalink  
January 13th, 2006
It will be even more interesting as Captain Jack is definitely metrosexual and the implication is that he would mind giving the Doctor and Rose one at the same time.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 13th, 2006
Yes, it's a song by Billy Joel. Damn, how could they fail to spot that?
Permalink Andy 
January 13th, 2006
"Damn, how could they fail to spot that?"

It's possibly intentional.
Permalink G-zer 
January 13th, 2006
Not a big surprise. The head writer Russel T. Davis, who got Dr Who back as a condition of his working for the BBC, first hit the screens with "Queer As Folk".

Furthermore, the fact that Captain Jack swings both ways was touched on when he was introduced in "The Empty Child" but very gently given the family audience at 7pm on a Saturday evening.

...and it's not actually the first series. Dr Who was running from 1962-1989 with a one off in 1996. However during the interrugnum there were a lot of writers (including one Russel T. Davis) adding books, radio and sound recordings. When the latest series was written it kept the internal continuity of those years.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 13th, 2006
Of course! There's a very good reason why you would want to name a character in a British Sci Fi show after an obscure Billy Joel song about drugs.

(Note: I should say that the above is a patently ludicrous assertion intended by its very obvious improbability to convey the message that I believe the opposite to be true. It's called sarcasm. Apparently it doesn't work with Americans.)
Permalink Andy 
January 13th, 2006
Captain Jack was a bit of a pastiche, I'm sure his naming was intentional.

Since he was also a time traveller, he could have given himself the name as a tribute to a songwriter who didn't exist yet.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 13th, 2006
What about Captain Jack Sparrow? Any relation?
Permalink example 
January 13th, 2006
Jack Sparrow, hero of Pirates of the Caribbean?

Could be a reference to Capt. John "Lucky Jack" Aubrey, of the O'Brien novels.

Actually, I find "Captain Jack" a pretty neutral, well-used term. Billy Joel had to get it from somewhere, surely?

But I'm looking forward to being able to see new episodes of Dr. Who in the states again. It would be typical that the SciFi channel would pick it up, that den of third-rate 'made for SciFi channel' SF-Horror movies.

Since 90% of everything is dreck, I suppose SciFi running Dr. Who and Stargate SG-1 must make up for all the other junk they put on. But they sure put on a lot of junk.
Permalink AllanL5 
January 13th, 2006
Reading the link, I find:

"In addition, BBC Video has moved the US release date of the DVD from February 2006 to July 4, 2006 to capitalize on the exposure from the TV broadcast. As part of the deal, BBC Video and SCI FI Channel have agreed to work together on joint marketing promotions to support the brand launch."

To which I say, "Bugger!". The thrice-damned SciFi channel has managed to push back America's access to the DVD for 7 MONTHS? Typical. That's what it is, typical.
Permalink AllanL5 
January 13th, 2006
5 months.

Yeah, Captian Jack is pretty neutral. Jack is a pretty generic name. "Hit the road Jack" (probably a Kerouac reference), "Jack and Jill", even the basically nameless main character in the Metal Gear series was Jack (John) in the latest video game.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 13th, 2006
Jack Bauer, Jack O'Neill, Jack Ryan, and so forth -- it's a pretty generic "hero" name...
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 13th, 2006
John ~ Jack is the most common male name over centuries, see also Ivan, Ion, Sian, Sean, Ian etc, etc.

Jack is the diminutive of John (believe it or not).
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 13th, 2006
OK peeps--I just got "The Complete First Series" box set from Amazon UK, and just started watching it (for the first time), so no spoilers please.

Incidentally, pleasant surprise: because I had it shipped to the US, they didn't add VAT to the price, making it £39 delivered. Neat.
Permalink Ian Boys 
January 13th, 2006
"...no spoilers please."

No need. Once you get to about the third episode it does a pretty good job of spoiling itself, and then proceeds to get worse...
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 13th, 2006
Go and stand in the corner...
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 13th, 2006
The two parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" is the best story...
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 13th, 2006
I think the two parter finale to the series runs it close but I'd probably agree.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 13th, 2006
Between the "hilarious" farting aliens and the unforgivable Dalek episode the producers of this series of Dr Who have done more to ruin the franchise than George Lucs did to destroy Star Wars.
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 13th, 2006
Oh come on Mat - this is Dr Who we're talking about.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 13th, 2006
After all remember K9, now at least if they're bringing back the brain dead dog its going to be grunged up.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 14th, 2006
Bringing back K9 only serves to reinforce my point -- the new series is as dumb as (if not dumber than) the low points of the older series... :)
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 14th, 2006

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