Watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election! Why didn't these people vote?

Which one is the official replacement for ?off?

Ectopia or Crazy on Tap? I see people posting on both forums. Which one should we focus on?
Permalink Some Random Dude 
January 28th, 2006 12:01pm
Eiher/or.  Take your pick, use both, use neither!
Permalink Send private email Mat Hall 
January 28th, 2006 12:02pm
This is an ?off clone and AHA put it together because of the shutdown.  Ectopia was created when ?off was unreliable a few months back and isn't a clone.  (I think the first Simon knew of the shutdown was waking up to a few emails and a bunch of people camped in his basement complaining about wallpaper).

So the answer is post to whichever you prefer or post to both (I do).  As to "official" - c'mon.  Either causes an allegic reaction in New York;-)
Permalink Send private email a cynic writes... 
January 28th, 2006 12:08pm
I prefer this one.
Permalink Send private email Flasher T 
January 28th, 2006 12:26pm
Flasher, don't start that again... :)
Permalink Send private email Mat Hall 
January 28th, 2006 12:28pm
What?
Permalink Send private email Flasher T 
January 28th, 2006 12:29pm
Upsetting Simon...

(And at the risk of a non sequitur, why's the reddit link moved in the sidebar?)
Permalink Send private email Mat Hall 
January 28th, 2006 12:42pm
http://www.afsp.org/education/newrecommendations.htm

- Certain ways of describing suicide in the news contribute to what behavioral scientists call "suicide contagion" or "copycat" suicides.

- Dramatizing the impact of suicide through descriptions and pictures of grieving relatives, teachers or classmates or community expressions of grief may encourage potential victims to see suicide as a way of getting attention or as a form of retaliation against others.

etc.
Permalink Notorious 
January 28th, 2006 12:59pm
Right.  And advertising guns may compel people to go out and shoot someone as a method of killing them and or getting them to go away.

The logic is there, but it's stupid logic.  :)
Permalink Send private email muppet 
January 28th, 2006 1:20pm
Actually, I think the logic would be "glorifying gun violence may compel some people who are close to the edge to shoot someone they're angry with."

We're not talking about going from 0 to 100, we're talking about going from 49 to 51.
Permalink Notorious 
January 28th, 2006 1:23pm
Incidentally, part of Michael Moore's message in "Bowling for Columbine" (which was lost in the anti-gun noise) was that the US is different due to our societal glorification of guns and gun violence. Look at the GTA:San Andreas nonsense - nobody cared about the game when it was about shooting cops and hookers; but when ONE HIDDEN SEX ACT was revealed, suddenly it's eeeeevil.

I think it's similar to the idea that "there's no such thing as bad press" - by constantly talking about gun crime, even as a perjorative, it makes it "more normal"

And look at the rash of school shootings post-Columbine.

Talking about a thing makes it more real; and therefore lowers the barrier for someone else who might have a disposition to do it.

Philo
Permalink Send private email Philo 
January 28th, 2006 1:28pm
What happened to that Dutch guy with all the insightful posts?
Permalink Google Searcher 
January 28th, 2006 1:45pm
I you mean Erik Spinglecamp - I last saw him in the other bar, but I think he pops in here too.
Permalink Send private email a cynic writes... 
January 28th, 2006 5:35pm

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