A bunch of cunts, mostly in the Australian sense. Except that one guy.

Hype

First just read the headline:

Turkey struggles with bird flu as children fall ill

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060107/ts_nm/birdflu_turkey_dc

As most people just read the headlines and skim a few words, one surely must realize that the dire predictions of a bird flu sweeping the world and killing all is coming to fruition. I mean my god, Turkey is struggling with children falling ill from bird flu left and right!!!!

Or there were only 3 children dead, and they got it by PLAYING WITH THE SEVERED HEADS OF CHICKENS. Someone start an ?off toy drive for Turkey today.
Permalink Phil 
January 7th, 2006
In the region, which is largely Kurdish, bird flu has been killing the domestic population of fowl wholesale, local leaders have been calling for action for the past fortnight. It would not be too cynical to think that swifter action would be taken if the disease had broken out somewhere closer to Ankara or at least in a predominantly Turkish area.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 8th, 2006
Granted, the bigger problem is the spreading of the disease amoung the bird population itself. It just annoys me how they have to use such dire headlines, because your average person could care less about birds getting sick, so they frame it that children are dying from it.
Permalink Phil 
January 8th, 2006
The bigger problem is when people transmit the disease to other people.

NOW, some kids got it and that may make you all weak at the knees, but that doesn't change the fact that some children got it, so howsabout you accept that the facts are there and the spin is yours?
Permalink Colm O'Connor 
January 8th, 2006
Simon - you get the chance to monitor your proposition! They've just found infection cases in Ankara...
Permalink trigger happy 
January 8th, 2006
" The bigger problem is when people transmit the disease to other people.

NOW, some kids got it and that may make you all weak at the knees, but that doesn't change the fact that some children got it, so howsabout you accept that the facts are there and the spin is yours?"


Except it still isn't in a form that can be spread from human to human. When that occurs I'll shit myself and join in on the hype. Until then, its no different then any other bird flu that has been around, or any other animal disease in general. How is the spin mine? You gotta admit that headline is a LITTLE dramatic given the facts.
Permalink Phil 
January 9th, 2006
Typically bird flu doesn't kill you - this strain does.
Typically flu epidemics occur when human and animal strains hybridise.
Epidemics occur on a semi-regular basis - we're overdue.

*If* the next one is as a result of a hybrid with this latest strain - you won't have much chance to join the hype...in a few weeks you'll either have survived or not same as the rest of us.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 9th, 2006
>Until then, its no different then any other bird flu that
>has been around, or any other animal disease in general.

Except that it has the potential to develop into a scenario where you would "shit yourself and join in the hype". If it were no different there wouldn't even be a headline.

>How is the spin mine? You gotta admit that headline is a
>LITTLE dramatic given the facts.

Reuters headlines don't tend to do much EXCEPT give you the facts. THOSE WERE THE FACTS. I don't see how this is so hard to understand. If you consider it overly dramatic, well, then obviously reality is overly dramatic for you.
Permalink Colm O'Connor 
January 9th, 2006
"Except that it has the potential to develop into a scenario where you would "shit yourself and join in the hype". "

Yes it has the potential. If the flu mutates into a form humans can spread, which while possible is unlikely, and even if it were to occur would mutate into a less deadly form. There has been nothing about this flu that has indicated this is more likely to mutate then other bird flus (and this strain has been around for what 3 years?) except that the media has decided to hype it up this time. I will grant you that the headline is factual, but you tell me what you picture when you read:

"Turkey struggles with bird flu as children fall ill"

You don't think that implies even in the slightest that turkey is struggling with the bird flu because large amounts of children are falling ill, as opposed to the (at the time) only 3 children that got it, by playing with dead chicken parts?
Permalink Phil 
January 9th, 2006
Phil, that headline meant no more nor less to me than what it said. Any implication was personal to you and you're obviously reading far more into it than is actually there. Not that that's uncommon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect
Permalink Colm O'Connor 
January 9th, 2006
Maybe, but I don't think I have any particular vested interest in the bird flu issue. It just seems like every other disease they hype up that will end mankind (Africanized bees, ebola, Mad cattle, west nile, etc...)
Permalink Phil 
January 9th, 2006

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