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Linux/MS (new angle...)

ok, this seems like the best forum for this discussion...

I have a client (yay!) who wants to use Linux for a specific solution, usually Im fine with that but in this case I believe that its going to be a mistake for all sorts of reasons.

so, lets assume that Im right, and that Im not really interested in debating that part of it a great deal.

the question is, how can I convince them to continue using windows?
they've been using Open Office and various other open source solutions for a while so there is no problem bringing the data across, as its all stored in open formats.
They will need to continue running a linux server for the web and the database stuff, Im not interested in downgrading their current setup there to windows...I just want them to continue using windows on the desktop...

there really doesn't seem to be much I can hang my hat on, the linux distros all provide everything they need in terms of normal usage, the one exception being photoshop but they have made a decision to go with gimp and are happy to swallow any pain that may accompany them.

The database front end Im writing for them can be as easily compiled for Linux as Windows anyway (and was chosen for that purpose) so theres no real argument there.

security wise, regardless of which OS is more secure there are certainly more windows viri out there in the wild, so that feels like a tough argument to make.

grrr....maybe Im just wrong...it just doesn't feel like the right time yet, Im sure Im forgetting something...
Permalink Jesus H Christ 
August 9th, 2005
Why do you want them to use Windows again... IMHO if they are willing to use Linux, this just makes yor life easier in supporting them. I work at a helpdesk and most of my time is spent dealing with spyware issues on Windows rather than some other fun issue (domain controller going insane)... well, I guess I just spent most of my time dealing with spyware. The mac users never seem to have any problems, ever, if it works from the get go, their PC will continue working, and Linux boxes semm to work like that too. Windows has a tendency to subsribe to the Murphy law crossed with the chaos theory.
Permalink Alex K 
August 9th, 2005
If you're going to be doing the systems admin and you're comfortable with that then fine, but Linux brings its own wrinkles in systems admin and whereas the client can find alternate Windows Admin skills fairly readily they may not be able to find *nix skills as easily.

When there are new employees they'll need to be trained in the applications and the desktop.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
August 9th, 2005
Only you know the client situation, and from the looks of it, they are most definetly an outlier, far from the mainstream.

You say the you ar econviced that for this case, Windows is the better option. You must have your reasons. Just analyze your own gut feeling. The answer will be there. I don't believe that in these cases fielding generic arguments to reach the goal is the right option. Sell it to them with the true reasons you have.
Permalink Just me (Sir to you) 
August 9th, 2005
How about changing your "Let's assume I'm right" attitude and explaining to the client WHY you think Windows would be the better choice?

What makes Windows the better choice for this "specific solution"?

  -tim
Permalink a2800276 
August 9th, 2005
Well, you haven't convinced us that they need to use Windows - in fact, they sound like perfect candidates for switching. So, not to debate, but why do you want them to stay on Windows? Are you administering them?
Permalink Cory Foy 
August 9th, 2005
Jesus -

You should know better than to try to impose any sort of structure or ground rules on a "discussion" in this place. Everyone has an overwhelming compulsion to get their two cents in no matter what framework you might want to set.
Permalink muppet 
August 9th, 2005
The easiest way to convince them to use Windows is to charge them double rates for using Linux.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
August 9th, 2005
I will be administering them either way ( well, not me personally...I hire people who know stuff about computers and get them to do all the work...)
so from that angle Linux or Windows doesn't matter much...in fact the chap who will be doing the actual work personally prefers linux.

hmm, maybe thats the source of my unease, everyone is gungho on the linux switch, I always get nervous when everyone agrees on an idea...it usually means its wrong...
Permalink Jesus H Christ 
August 9th, 2005

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