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Online console gaming?

While trying to edit a team with a game controller in NCAA 2005, I was wondering if anyone had set up an online console game that you can access from the PC - so you can use keyboard/mouse on a website to edit records or upload photos, then play online with the console?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 21st, 2005
I believe, although I could be completely wrong, that there is some sort of Web frontend for Xbox Live.
Permalink Flasher T 
August 21st, 2005
I'd always assumed that to be the case. If there isn't then it sucks royally! (And can't you just plug a USB keyboard into the XBox anyway? Heck, even my Dreamcast has a keyboard, mouse, and web browser. :D)
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 21st, 2005
i work at a game studio and when we design features like this marketing invariably tells us that users do not want to have to use more then one device and tells us to scrap the feature.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
Dear Marketing,

You are all idiots.

Yours,
Everyone
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 22nd, 2005
i agree completely.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
Hmm I haven't gone on XBOX Live in months.

I wonder whether XBOX live for first gen XBOXes will remain up after the 360 comes out, and for how long.
Permalink muppet 
August 22nd, 2005
Good question, and I don't know. Hopefully they'll keep the xbox 360 stuff backwards compatible so it's not an additional expense to maintain both.

Of course, as long as xbox live remains active, there's additional marketing force to buy an xbox, so probably longer than we'd guess...

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
from a ... damnit ... marketing aspect, and this time i hope so and knowing microsoft it's highly probable. i'd say it's a certainty that the current incantation of xbox live will cross over and blend seemlessly with the new levels of xbox live service they are adding for the launch of 360 (multiple subscription levels, micro transactions, etc.).
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
When they finally do sunset XBOX Live, you know they're not going to allow any third-party servers to come in and take its place, either.

I mean, it's possible, but very unlikely. What happens to my XBOX when I can't play my stuff online anymore? Am I supposed to consider it disposable?

I know I'm griping about a problem that doesn't exist (yet), but I think it's perfectly plausible that when XBOX Live for first gen XBOX goes away, MS will actively prevent replacements. It's just their style.
Permalink muppet 
August 22nd, 2005
i really dont see any reason for microsoft to do anything but make 360's version of live completely backward compatible with the old live, going so far as to retain gamertags for 360 upgraders. anything other then that would alienate way too many people who are already being put off by having to spend an extra $100 just to have backward compatibility.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
Hmm probably. But what about after XBOX 360? :-)

I still have my SNES, and I'm bitter that I can't get online with THAT anymore. :-)
Permalink muppet 
August 22nd, 2005
after 360, who knows. this generation of console is expected to last 7-8 years. they'll figure something out.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
blank, ask your marketing department if they'd like online forums where players can discuss the games, like on xboxlive, eagames.com, etc. The users can put in contact information and interests and you can track who talks most about the game, get live feedback, etc.

If they say "yes" (probably while drooling) then ask if *that* isn't asking players to use two different platforms to deal with the game?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
they've decided that it would be nice but it would also be too time and resource consuming because you'd need moderation and policies, etc, etc. they're actually not terribly interested in finding out what the players think of the games. they want to see raw sales numbers -- everything else is irrelevent. if a game doesn't sell the reason should be obvious, not enough guns or boobs.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
Wow.

I know an area where the company could probably do some massive cost-cutting and have no impact on sales whatsoever - fire the entire marketing department except for the guy who does the ads. (Not the people who have meetings about the ads - just the actual guy who makes them happen)

Then hire in one solid, aggressive, visionary marketeer and give him/her free reign. Your sales would probably have double-digit growth...

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
as far as getting the information out of the user they will be happy to take your email address and spam you forever, they just wont give you a forum to air your opinions.
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
well this is a french company.. they do things their own way because "hey we got da monies!".
Permalink  
August 22nd, 2005
Ohhuhh, I told zem we already got one!
Permalink I am Jack's familiar Frenchman 
August 22nd, 2005
Muppet, since when has MS been able to successfully prevent any sort of grassroots movement? (First and foremost disabling copy protection on its own products.)
Permalink Flasher T 
August 22nd, 2005
Where did *that* come from?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
August 22nd, 2005
I dunno but I started to make a useless short MS fanboy post earlier. I hit ctrl-alt-del to login and I received a popup telling me caps lock was on. That is maybe the most ingenuitive addition to Windows I've seen lately.

*grin*
Permalink I am Jack's Windows wagon 
August 22nd, 2005
"I wonder whether XBOX live for first gen XBOXes will remain up after the 360 comes out, and for how long."

You mean this isn't on the roadmap? They know when they're gonna sunset everything they ever did. They probably know when they're gonna sunset Bill Gates.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 22nd, 2005

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