Sanding our assholes with 150 grit.

So, muppet, still have a job?

One that you'll even try to keep, anyway?
Permalink iWonder 
March 31st, 2005
still have a job

HR was actually very understanding and pretty helpful. Stuff is happening and the issue isn't getting ignored.
Permalink muppet 
March 31st, 2005
However, you should be expecting backlash from insane boss.

Or maybe from Crazy Asian Lady.

Or both.

Anyway, expect repercussions.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
April 1st, 2005
Insane boss hasn't even got any idea I ever spoke to HR. It's possible I suppose that he'll deduce it sooner or later, but for now it's more of a "this has been noted for future use" sort of situation.
Permalink muppet 
April 1st, 2005
Ok.

Still, good luck.

Don't stop looking for a better job just because this one is reverting to comfortable.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
April 1st, 2005
Oh no, absolutely not. I'm still looking.

I can just afford to be a little more picky than I might have been on Tuesday.
Permalink muppet 
April 1st, 2005
Pehraps insane boss is having an affair with Crazy Asian Lady, which would explain his animosity, and why CAL has to wait all alone in the coffee shop until muppet has gone and her lover can turn up.

Perhaps Muppet is having an affair with both IB and CAL, in which case everything can be blamed on "the green-eyed monster" (that's jealousy, not muppet).
Permalink Stephen Jones 
April 1st, 2005
Muppet, if you believe HR won't tell your boss about this, you're dangerously naive. Remember why Scott Adams had Catbert chosen for HR director.

Seriously. As in, I've seen this before.
Permalink Mongo 
April 1st, 2005
Agree with Mongo. HR works for the company not you. ALWAYS.
Permalink zed 
April 1st, 2005
If they told him, they told him. I'm not really concerned about it. I said it, after all.

Now, if they go telling him that I said things that I didn't, then I'd take issue.

And truly, this woman in HR really gives me good vibes. I honestly think she's genuine and I don't think that she has or will say anything unless I ask her to.
Permalink muppet 
April 1st, 2005
Unless it was a formal complaint that would be followed up with an investigation then its unlikely an ethical HR person would talk to the manager.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
April 1st, 2005
I hope you're right on that count.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
April 1st, 2005
muppet:

I wasn't there so I don't know the whole story.  Personally, I would have had a sitdown with the guy and tell him your concerns. I would have talked in my most professional voice and maybe even mentioned you would go to HR.

It will show you are guy not to be messed with.

You current action looks like it will work too.
Permalink Berlin Brown 
April 1st, 2005
I once saw an employee comlain to HR about a poor manager. HR went around and interviewed all the employees under that manager, quietly, and then fired the manager.
Permalink MarkTAW 
April 1st, 2005
Wow. Never heard of that before.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
April 1st, 2005

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