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Hate The Gay

Ok. Don't keep on saying that.

It is quite simple. I just don't want my children to turn out gay. There is no hatred.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 5th, 2005
Why do you care? You'd have a lot to talk about with your daughter.
Permalink Tayssir John Gabbour 
March 5th, 2005
"I just don't want my children to turn out gay."

What makes you think you can control that?
Permalink Almost Anonymous 
March 5th, 2005
And I don't want my children to turn out to be bigots.
Permalink antiBigot 
March 5th, 2005
Aren't you more worried they'd turn out to be Democrats? It's certainly more likely.

As for them "turning out gay" - there's really nothing you can do about it. Homosexuality is as much a "choice" as heterosexuality is.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
March 5th, 2005
You have evidence for that, Philo?
Permalink Ian Boys 
March 5th, 2005
I'm sure there are those that 'choose' to be gay as well as those that are gay by design?!? I certainly didn't choose to be hetero, just worked out that way.
Permalink _ 
March 5th, 2005
Yes, I'd rather my children didn't turn out to be gay, also. It's hard enough in this world trying to be 'normal'. Trying to be true to yourself when you have this core issue that much of America seems to have a problem with just makes it harder.

And 'normal' is in single quotes because I acknowledge we are continually re-defining it -- both for ourselves and for our culture. Really, it's a nebulous term.

I'd also like to hold my grandchildren one day, if possible.
Permalink AllanL5 
March 5th, 2005
By the way, I HATE bigots! All of them.
Permalink _ 
March 5th, 2005
FWIW: All the gay/lesbian folks that I've known and know were pretty much hard-wired that way, in some cases despite much conditioning to "straightness". Not to sound like more-PC-than-thou or anything, but doing a little bit toward a world where orientation is less relevant than the color of one's belly-button fuzz isn't the worst thing you could give your kids. (Notice how like most childless folks, I'll happily tell you how to raise your kids... ;-) ;-) )
Permalink cubiclegrrl 
March 5th, 2005
I am sure there is nothing I can effectively do after he/she is 5 years old.

But before that I am not so sure.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 5th, 2005
"I just don't want my children to turn out gay."

Dude, you are not ready to be a parent.

instead of a moronic statement like that would it makes sense to go like this:

"I just don't want my childrent to turn out bad, insenstitive and intollerent."

You have no way of ensure the statment you've made but the one that I am proposing is very much doable.

Are you homphopic? don't you think you should be treated first before thinking about having kids?
Permalink Dan Denman 
March 5th, 2005
"You have evidence for that, Philo?"

I rely on logic.

Alright, Ian - why don't you fantasize about having sex with a man. Just close your eyes and think graphically about the things that you could do with a guy, while getting aroused.

It should be easy, right? If you just "choose" to be gay, then anyone should be able to "choose" to do it.

If, on the other hand, you cannot get aroused thinking about men, but there are men who can, isn't it logically possible those men actually cannot get aroused thinking about women?

IDIC, my friend - six billion is a very large number, and the brain is a very complex thing.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
March 5th, 2005
"But before that I am not so sure."

I agree, if you want to ensure that your kids dont turn out gay, there are some clear steps you must take:

(1) if they are boys, dont hug them, and as much as possible avoiding touching them at all...man to man contact like that may give them a taste for more.

(2) if they are boys, buy them guns, soldiers and chainsaws as gifts...if girls, buy them mini stoves, pink dresses and (female) dolls.
...do *not* get those two mixed up, under any circumstances...

(3) If they happen to see two gay people together, tell them that those people are evil and are going straight to hell.

(4) if you have boys, beat the evil out of them regularly...if you have girls, encourage them to get boyfriends as early as possible...its never to young for them to learn the joys of male/female relationships.

(5) do not, under any circumstances, allow your children to play with anyone of the same sex...they may find they like it...instead, encourage them to play with members of the opposite sex wherever possible.

(6) be careful of the influence of their grandparents and other family members...at the first hint that any family member may have a streak of fairy dust cut them off...they may contaminate your children and its not worth the risk.

I think Ive covvered everything...follow those steps and Ill guarantee you will get the children you want.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 5th, 2005
"Ill guarantee you will get the children you want."

You misspelled "deserve." HTH.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
March 5th, 2005
Rick while you are at, why don't you shoot for the following (because you sound like you possess super natural powers)

"I do want my childrent to be White, be of right wing twisted evengelical Christian faith and be able to fake tolerance."

This is what you need to prosper in the United State of A.
Permalink Dan Denman 
March 5th, 2005
FullNameRequired

Very cool - for the very first time I actually enjoyed your post. Keep it up dude.
Permalink Dan Denman 
March 5th, 2005
" I actually enjoyed your post."

<g> dont feel bad for disliking most of my posts, I personally find your posts to be entirely absurd.

...I dont believe you have posted something that I agree with; or even find interesting; since I noticed your presence :)
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 5th, 2005
When I was a teenager, my father caught me smoking in the backyard. He was extremely cross with me, and later in the evening came home with a carton of marlboros. He made me chain smoke one after another until I got sick and vomited. Now whenever I smell a cigarette, I gag.

I would assume the same type of therapy would cure your son of homosexual tendencies. If you catch him being gay, drive him down to your local steam room, and have him give BJs to the entire clientel. He will never be able to look at a man in the same way again.
Permalink  
March 6th, 2005
Please people, behave! This topic is how Rick's gay children will grow up to hate him and not your petty squabling! ;)
Permalink Almost Anonymous 
March 6th, 2005
"I dont believe you have posted something that I agree with; or even find interesting; since I noticed your presence :) "

By now, you should have realized that I don't give a flying fuck what people think and heck you are no expception ... I thought perhaps giving you some encouragement will give your retarded brain some boost.
Permalink Dan Denman 
March 6th, 2005
Actually I am not even married yet.

If my kids turn out gay, of course i'll accept them. At least hopefully they would not become a gay democrat.

Philo, don't be so sure. I am sure under the right circumstances every man would do the unthinkable.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 6th, 2005
" you should have realized that I don't give a flying fuck what people think"

<g> now, if that was *really* true then you would not really have felt the need to say so in such crude terms, would you?

ahh, its ok denny boy, always remember that your mother loves you deeply.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 6th, 2005
"Actually I am not even married yet."

:) ever wondered why? (j/k)


"If my kids turn out gay, of course i'll accept them."

hang on to this, its the bottom line and its all that counts....basically if your kids turn out to be gay you; as a good man; have 2 choices.
(1) give them a hard time and put them through hell as you come to terms with it, and then eventually accept it

(2) accept it gracefully as quickly as possible and dont ever give them cause to believe you think any less of them.

really, if you love your children, its no choice.



"At least hopefully they would not become a gay democrat."

god forbid...I do have hope that my girls will be clearer thinkers than that though :)

...once they learn to read Ill get 'em to read through some of denny boys posts here, just so they can understand the kind of crap a less-careful thinker can come up with..
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 6th, 2005
Maybe my kids would be muslims. Who knows?

At least there is less chance for them to be gay.

Or perhaps I could go back to the homophobic China.

I could even go to homophobic Africa.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 6th, 2005
Ok, I've read all this, and the point was?
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 6th, 2005
Have fun, procreate and die. That's the deal on the table. Everything's optional except the last item. 'Kay?

Love your kids, nurture them, help them, lead them, push, pull and accept their individuality. Grieve if their life seems futile to them - not to you.

(Except I could kill my eldest - he smokes.)
Permalink trollop 
March 6th, 2005
Did you know the the flamingo is the animal most prone to homosexual behaviour?

Nature is truly not without a sense of irony.
Permalink Eric Debois 
March 6th, 2005
"(1) give them a hard time and put them through hell

(2) dont ever give them cause to believe you think any less of them."

I'd just like to point out that, as edited, (1) and (2) are not mutually exclusive - in fact, they're my modus operandi as a parent. :)

Philo
Permalink Philo 
March 6th, 2005
The nice thing about being gay or bisexual is that you're free from all of this sort of insecurity.
Permalink AndyUK 
March 6th, 2005
"they're my modus operandi as a parent. :)"

<g> Ive heard that ex-navy types are hard parents...
Permalink  
March 6th, 2005
"and the point was"

That when it comes to this issue, there is only one point of view that is accepted.

All of us are bisexual.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 6th, 2005
"All of us are bisexual"


ummm...no...Im not bisexual as far as I am aware....I just believe that being bisexual or gay or whatever is a perfectly reasonable thing to be...along the lines of being blonde, fat, skinny or slant eyed, intelligent, unintelligent or handsome.

..to be the point is that we all have prejudices, and thats fine, we just need to learn to ignore them as much as possible.
Permalink  
March 6th, 2005
those two blank posts were me, sorry..
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 6th, 2005
No one seems to have asked the obvious question, so I will - Why?
Permalink a cynic writes... 
March 6th, 2005
"All of us are bisexual."

Ahhh the symmetry; this topic began with a stupid comment and ended with a stupid comment.
Permalink Almost Anonymous 
March 6th, 2005
I'm bisexual - I like both straight and gay women.

[grinning, ducking, running]

Philo
Permalink Philo 
March 6th, 2005
Yes, but which do you prefer?
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 7th, 2005
It seems we have a new village idiot. Huzzah.
Permalink Zorg 
March 7th, 2005
I don't want gay kids too. Actually, I don't want straight kids either. In fact, I don't want kids at all.

All I want is to find a contraceptive method better than abstinence.
Permalink Ricardo Antunes da Costa 
March 7th, 2005
"do not, under any circumstances, allow your children to play with anyone of the same sex...they may find they like it...instead, encourage them to play with members of the opposite sex wherever possible."

This advice is preposterous!! You cannot be suggesting that young boys be encouraged to play with *girls*! Girls dress up in mummy's old skirts, and push baby dollies around in prams, and play with makeup! These are clearly unsuitable activities for boys, because they may find they like it!

The only solution I can think of is this: Under no circumstances should any child be allowed to play with any other child. Total segregation. ... Yes... The more I think about it, the more it appeals.
Permalink Jonathan 
March 7th, 2005

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